Frederich Moroni Phelps

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• Race: White
• unknown: Phonograph Company
• Name: Fred Phelps
• Name: Freddie M Phelps
• Name: Fredrick M Phelps
• Reference Number: 6728
• Residence: Flint, Genesee, Michigan, USA
• _MILT: Occupation: Hotel 2400; Complexion: Light; EyeColor: Blue; HairColor: Brown; Height: 5 11; Weight: 130
• Birth: 1912, Michigan, USA
• Birth: 1913, Michigan, USA
• Residence: 1920, Ingham, Michigan, USA; StreetAddress: Lyons Avenue; Age: 7; AttendedSchool: Yes; EnumerationDistrict: 111; RelationToHead: Son; MaritalStatus: Single
• Residence: 1930, Flint, Genesee, Michigan, USA; StreetAddress: Fleming Road; Age: 18; AbleToSpeakEnglish: Yes; AttendedSchool: No; CanReadWrite: Yes; ClassofWorker: Wage or salary worker; EnumerationDistrict: 0067; IsEmployed: Yes; RegistrationDistrict: 67; MaritalStatus: Single; RelationToHead: Son; O
• Residence: 1935, Rural, Michigan
• unknown: 1940, Forestville, Prince George's, Maryland, USA; Age: 28
• Residence: 1940, Forestville, Prince George's, Maryland, USA; Age: 28; RelationToHead: Self
• Residence: 1940, Election Dist 6 Spalding, Prince George´S, Maryland, USA; StreetAddress: Ritchie Rd Route 1; 28 Age: 28; Labor Occupation: Labor; AttendedSchool: No; ClassofWorker: Wage or salary worker in private work; EmploymentCode: 1; EmploymentDetails: No; EmploymentHistory: No; EnumerationDistrict: 17-23; GradeCompleted:

Notes:

Margaret Moore shows 8 children, although 5 of them are private.

Frederich married Lucille M Rock on 6 Jul 1933 in Flint, Genesee, Michigan, USA. Lucille was born on 6 Jul 1914 in Saginaw, Saginaw, Michigan, USA; died on 26 Aug 1994 in Santa Rosa, Sonoma, California, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Constance Phelps was born on 9 Jun 1934 in Saginaw, Saginaw, Michigan, USA; died on 23 Nov 2012 in Hayward, Alameda, California, USA.
2. Living
3. Living
4. Nellie Ruth Phelps was born on 11 Dec 1938 in Washington, District of Columbia, USA; died on 7 Nov 2002 in Sacramento, California, USA.
5. Living
6. Donald Frederick Phelps was born on 1 Oct 1947 in San Francisco, California, USA; died on 17 Sep 1975 in Sonoma, California, USA.
7. Living

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• Race: White
• Name: Claud A Phelps
• Name: Gland R Phelps
• Name: Glaud Phelps
• Name: Glaud R Phelps
• Name: Glaud R Phelps
• Name: Glaude R Phelps
• Reference Number: 6861
• Residence: Saginaw, Saginaw, Michigan, USA
• Birth: Jul 1889, Michigan, USA
• Birth: 27 Jul 1889, Juniata, Tuscola, Michigan, USA
• Birth: 27 Jul 1889, Fremont, Tuscola, Michigan, USA
• Birth: 27 Jul 1889
• Birth: 27 Jul 1889
• Birth: 1890, Michigan, USA
• Birth: 1890, Juniata, Tuscola, Michigan, USA
• Birth: 1890, USA
• Residence: 1900, Surrey, Clare, Michigan, USA; Age: 10; Occupation: At School; AbleToSpeakEnglish: Yes; AttendedSchool: 3; CanRead: Yes; CanWrite: Yes; EnumerationDistrict: 0030; MaritalStatus: Single; RelationToHead: Son
• Residence: 1910, Gladwin, Michigan, USA; Age: 20; MaritalStatus: Married; RelationToHead: Son-in-law
• Residence: 1920, Ingham, Michigan, USA; StreetAddress: Lyons Avenue; Age: 30; Occupation: Salesman; AbleToSpeakEnglish: Yes; CanRead: Yes; CanWrite: Yes; EnumerationDistrict: 111; HomeMortgaged: Mortgaged; HomeOwnership: Own; Industry: Piano Co; IsEmployed: Wage or Salary; RelationToHead: Head;
• Residence: 1923, Flint, Michigan, USA; StreetAddress: 743 E Witherbee; Auto Wkr Occupation: Auto Wkr
• Residence: 1924, Flint, Michigan, USA; StreetAddress: 35xE Myrtle av; Salesman Occupation: Salesman
• Residence: 1929, Flint, Michigan, USA; StreetAddress: 3420 Fleming rd; Real Est Slsmn Occupation: Real Est Slsmn
• Residence: 1930, Flint, Genesee, Michigan, USA; StreetAddress: Fleming Road; Age: 40; AbleToSpeakEnglish: Yes; AttendedSchool: No; CanReadWrite: Yes; ClassofWorker: Employer; EnumerationDistrict: 0067; HomeOwnership: Owned; IsEmployed: Yes; LiveOnFarm: No; OwnedRadio: No; RegistrationDistrict: 67; Valu
• Residence: 1935, Flint, Genesee, Michigan, USA
• Residence: 1940, Prince George's, Maryland, USA
• Residence: 1942, Anacostia, District of Columbia, USA; Age: 53
• Residence: 1942, Anacostia, District of Columbia, USA; Age: 53
• Residence: 1945, Sarasota, Florida, USA
• Death: 22 Oct 1961, Florida, USA

Notes:

After years of seemingly unexplained DNA matches to our mother, we have finally came to the inescapable conlusion that our mother was the result of an extramarital affair between Mabel Seeley and an unknown male. A first cousin match, along with 2 half grand niece matches, a half grand nephew match and numerous other more distant matches showed that mother was a grandchild of Levi Phelps and Anna Degroat. The two different1/2 great niece matches, along with the others, showed quite convincingly that mother was the biological child of Glaud Phelps.

Birth:
Mayville is in Fremont Township

Buried:
Manasota Memorial Park

Glaud married Nellie Marie Angle on 6 Feb 1910 in Saginaw, Saginaw, Michigan, USA, and was divorced on 12 Nov 1926 in Genesee, Michigan, USA. Nellie (daughter of James Angle and Orpha Blackford) was born on 6 Mar 1891 in Flushing, Belmont, Ohio, USA; died on 22 Jun 1954 in Sarasota, Florida, USA; was buried in Sarasota, Sarasota County, Florida, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Race: White
• Name: Nellie M Angle
• Name: Nellie M Angle
• Name: Nellie M Phelps
• Name: Nellie M Phelps
• Name: Nellie May Phelps Knights
• Name: Nellie Phelps
• Reference Number: 6719
• Birth: 1891
• Birth: 1891, Ohio, USA
• Birth: 1892, Ohio, USA
• Residence: 1910, Gladwin, Michigan, USA; Age: 19; MaritalStatus: Married; RelationToHead: Daughter
• Residence: 1920, Ingham, Michigan, USA; StreetAddress: Lyons Avenue; Age: 28; AbleToSpeakEnglish: Yes; CanRead: Yes; CanWrite: Yes; EnumerationDistrict: 111; RelationToHead: Wife; MaritalStatus: Married

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• Industry: Church of Christ
• Race: Welsh
• Race: White
• Reference Number: 6979
• Residence: Reese, Tuscola, Michigan, USA
• Birth: 1850, New York, USA
• Residence: 1850, Ira, Cayuga, New York, USA
• Birth: Feb 1850, New York, USA
• Birth: 18 Feb 1850, New York, USA
• Birth: 1851, USA
• Residence: 1861, Cramahe, Northumberland, Ontario, Canada
• Residence: 1871, Delaware, Middlesex, Ontario, Canada; Age: 20
• Residence: 1880, Reese, Tuscola, Michigan, USA; StreetAddress: Saginan St; Age: 30; Occupation: Works In Stove Mill; EnumerationDistrict: 399; MaritalStatus: Married; RelationToHead: Self
• Residence: 1900, Surrey, Clare, Michigan, USA; Age: 50; Occupation: Farmer; AbleToSpeakEnglish: Yes; CanRead: Yes; CanWrite: Yes; EnumerationDistrict: 0030; HomeMortgaged: F; HomeOwnership: O; MonthsUnEmployedPastYear: 0; OwnsFarm: F; YearsMarried: 0; MaritalStatus: Married; RelationToHead: Head
• Residence: 1910, Lincoln, Clare, Michigan, USA; Age: 60; MaritalStatus: Married; RelationToHead: Head
• Residence: 1920, Marshall Ward 2, Saline, Missouri, USA; StreetAddress: East Gardon; Age: 69; Occupation: Bus and Frust; AbleToSpeakEnglish: Yes; CanRead: Yes; CanWrite: Yes; EnumerationDistrict: 202; HomeMortgaged: Free; HomeOwnership: Owned; IsEmployed: Wage or Salary; MaritalStatus: Married; RelationToHead:
• Residence: 1930, Arrow Rock, Saline, Missouri, USA; StreetAddress: Baker Street; Age: 80; AbleToSpeakEnglish: Yes; AttendedSchool: No; CanReadWrite: Yes; ClassofWorker: Unpaid worker, member of the family; EnumerationDistrict: 0002; HomeOwnership: Owned; IsEmployed: No; LiveOnFarm: No; OwnedRadio: No; Regi

Notes:

Birth: 18 Feb1850 in Ira, Cayuga, New York per Michigan death certificate.

On the 1861 Canadian Census for Cramahe, Northumberland, Canada, his father & Aunt, Levi and Lucinda appeared in the household of Abert(age 54) & Abigail Porter(age 50). Also in the household children, Maurice Porter(age 25 and Porthena Porter(age 22). All were listed as born in the U.S. Willis appears on the 1861 Census in Brighton, Northumberland County. (Cramahe is about 11 miles from Brighton). We believe that his wife Sophronia died approximately 1861. This is probably indicative that she died prior to the 1861 census.

On the 1850 census in Ira, Cayuga, New York Willis (must be Levi) is listed as 6 months old on 8/10/1850.

Levi was a preacher for the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints. Elder Levi Phelps had given sermons in Flint, Saginaw and Grand Rapids according to newspaper listings. By 1920 he was living in Saline, Missouri where his third wife Anna Bierie died in 1929. He appeared on the Saline census in both 1920 and 1930. He moved back to Michigan and died in Tuscola County in 1935 at the age of 85. He appeared on the 1930 census with a fourth wife, Louie(Louise/Lorie?). We know little about her. He was unmarried on his death certificate. His death certificate listed him as a retired minister.

Died:
Age: 85

Levi married Anna Maria(Mariah) Degroat on 18 Feb 1882 in Arcadia, Lapeer, Michigan, USA. Anna (daughter of Anson Henry DeGroat and Mary Mills) was born in 1859 in North Dorchester, Middlesex, Ontario, Canada; died on 17 Mar 1900 in Surrey, Clare, Michigan, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Race: White
• Name: Anna Degroat
• Name: Anna M DeGroat
• Name: Anna Phelps
• Name: Annie De Groat
• Reference Number: 6980
• Birth: 1859, Ontario, Canada
• Birth: 1859, Canada
• Birth: 1859, Massachusetts, USA
• Residence: 1861, North Dorchester, Middlesex, Ontario, Canada
• Residence: 1870, Arcadia, Attica, Lapeer, Michigan, USA; Age: 11; Occupation: At Home
• Residence: 18 Feb 1882, Arcadia, Attica, Lapeer, Michigan, USA

Notes:

1870 living in residence of Alexander and Phoebe Carpenter. Phebe is the daughter of Abner Chase and Lydia Upton. Also next door on the census is Sharley Wilson, another daughter of Abner and Lydia. Abner and Lydia are quakers in Yarmouth, Elgin County Ontario. We have multiple autosomal dna matches with Abner & Lydia although we do not know the exact relationship. Also both sisters had either a son or grandson of John Mills/Abigail Minard as a witness at their weddings in Canada. We also have multiple autosomal dna matches to John Mills/Abigail Minard, although we do not have the exact line fleshed out. Mary may be a granddaughter to them.

Based on numerous DNA matches we believe that Amasa Chase was the illegitimate father of Mary Mills. He was living in Yarmouth at the time. Numerous matches show that his DNA goes through Mary Mills line to her descendants. After Mary died, two of her children were 'adopted' by Amasa's sister, Phoebe Carpenter in Lapeer, Michigan. We believe Mary's mother was a child or grandchild of John Mills & Abigail Minard. Again, numerous DNA matches to Mills/Minard come through Mary's line. Mary would have grown up in one of the Mills households. Unfortunately, the 1851 census for the section of Yarmouth that the Mills family lived in is missing. The 1841 census was head of household only, and we cannot identify Mary. The 1861 Census shows Mary living with her husband, Anson Degroat.

In a will written in July 1883 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89SC-B6MF) ( image 107 and image 111) by Sharley (Chase) Carpenter (sister of Phoebe Carpenter and brother of Amasa Chase), Sharley referred to her "niece Anna Maria Phelps" and on another page referred to her "niece Anna Mariah Phelps". Sharley also lived next door to Phoebe at the time. (The correct term should have been grandniece.) The other children of Mary Mills are not mentioned.

Died:
Age: 41

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• Reference Number: 6637
• Residence: 1910, Gladwin, Michigan, USA

James married Orpha Blackford. Orpha was born in 1869 in Ohio, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 6640
• Residence: 1910, Gladwin, Michigan, USA

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• Name: W. H. Phelps
• Name: Willis F Phelps
• Reference Number: 6611
• Birth: 1819, USA
• Birth: 1820, USA
• Possessions: 27 Nov 1843, Cato, Cayuga, New York, USA; Willis Phelps to Simeon Phelps
• Possessions: 1 Oct 1849, Cato, Cayuga, New York, USA; Willis & Sophronia Phelps to James Reed
• Residence: 1850, Ira, Cayuga, New York, USA
• Possessions: 6 Jul 1850, Cato, Cayuga, New York, USA; Willis Phelps to Charles Tucker & Hamilton Clough
• Possessions: 6 Feb 1851, Cato, Cayuga, New York, USA; Sophia Phelps to Willis Phelps and others
• Residence: 1852, Brighton, Northumberland County, Ontario, Canada; Age: 33
• Residence: 1871, Delaware, Middlesex, Ontario, Canada; Age: 51; MaritalStatus: Widowed
• Residence: 1878, Lobo Township, Middlesex, Ontario, Canada
• Residence: 1880, Lobo Township, Middlesex, Ontario, Canada
• Residence: 1880, Lobo Township, Middlesex, Ontario, Canada

Notes:

Lobo Twp is about 12 miles from Delaware, Ontario. On Lobo Twp voter list in 1878 and 1880. Not on census in 1881. His 2nd wife is on 1881 census as a widow.

On the 1861 Canadian Census for Cramahe, Northumberland, Canada, his children Levi and Lucinda appeared in the household of Abert(age 54) & Abigail Porter(age 50). Also in the household children, Maurice Porter(age 25) and Porthena Porter(age 22). All were listed as born in the U.S. We have not found Willis in the 1861 census. Willis appears on the 1852 Census in Brighton, Northumberland County (without Sophronia or Levi). (Cramahe is about 11 miles from Brighton). We believe that his wife Sophronia died approximately 1861. This is probably indicative that she died prior to the 1861 census. We have not found Willis himself on the 1861 census.

From family trees online it appears that Albert Borzer Porter was born 1805 in Hartford County, Connecticut. His wife is Abigail Pettet. I did not find any genealogical connection.

On the 1850 census in Ira, Cayuga, New York Head of household is listed as William Phelps, wife is listed as Cephrona and Willis (must be Levi) is listed as 6 months old on 8/10/1850 (Levi's death cert shows born Feb 1850).

There is an 1851 mortgage foreclosure sale on his real estate in Ira, found on genealogybank.com. The Cayuga Chief 11 Nov1851 P.3. Willis executed a mortgage 6 Jul 1850. The foreclosure sale is 27 Nov 1851.

He appears on 1878 and 1880 Voter Lists in Lobo Township. But does not appear on the 1881 Census. We assume that he died prior to 1881.

Inscription on 2nd wife's gravestone, says in 1884 "wife of late W.H. Phelps"

Birth:
I believe Burton, New York in Phelps book was an error. Father lived in Brutus, Burton being 150 miles away does not make sense.

Willis married Sophronia Bradley before 1848 in New York, USA. Sophronia was born in 1822 in New York, USA; died before 1861. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: Cephrona Phelps
• Name: Sophronia Phelps
• Reference Number: 6427
• Possessions: 1 Oct 1849, Cato, Cayuga, New York, USA; Willis & Sophronia Phelps to James Reed
• Residence: 1850, Ira, Cayuga, New York, USA
• Possessions: 1 Jan 1850, Cato, Cayuga, New York, USA

Notes:

On the 1861 Canadian Census for Cramahe, Northumberland, Canada, her children Levi and Lucinda appeared in the household of Abert (age 54) & Abigail Porter (age 54, b U.S.). Also in the household children, Maurice Porter (age 25) and Porthena Porter (age 10). All were listed as born in the U.S. We have not found Willis in the 1861 census. Willis appears on the 1852 Census in Brighton, Northumberland County (without Sophronia or Levi). (Cramahe is about 11 miles from Brighton). We presume that Sophronia died by1861 as she does not appear on the 1861 census with her children.

From family trees online it appears that Albert Borzer Porter was born 1805 in Hartford County, Connecticut. His wife is Abigail Pettet. I did not find any genealogical connection. The 1851 Canada Census in Cramahe states Albert Porter is 42 and born in Canada.

On the 1850 census in Ira, Cayuga, New York Head of household is listed as William Phelps, wife is listed as Cephrona and Willis (must be Levi) is listed as 6 months old on 8/10/1850 (Levi's death cert shows born Feb 1850).

Died:
not in 1861 census

Notes:

Married:
based on children's birth

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• Race: White
• Name: Anson De Groot
• Name: Anson DeGroat
• Name: Anson H Degroot
• Reference Number: 6684
• Birth: 1833, Canada
• Birth: 1834, Canada
• Birth: 1834, Canada
• Birth: Feb 1834, Canada
• Residence: 1852, Dorchester North, Middlesex County, Ontario, Canada; Age: 18
• Arrival: 1855; Age: 21
• Residence: 1861, North Dorchester, Middlesex, Ontario, Canada
• Residence: 1870, Dayton, Tuscola, Michigan, USA; Post Office: Vassar
• Residence: 1872, Cedar Springs, Kent, Michigan, USA
• Residence: 1880, Cedar Springs, Kent, Michigan, USA; Age: 47; Occupation: Farmer; EnumerationDistrict: 112; MaritalStatus: Married; RelationToHead: Self
• Residence: 1900, Algoma, Kent, Michigan, USA; Age: 66; Occupation: Farmer; AbleToSpeakEnglish: Yes; CanRead: Yes; CanWrite: Yes; EnumerationDistrict: 0033; HomeMortgaged: M; HomeOwnership: O; MonthsUnEmployedPastYear: 0; NaturalizationStatus: Na; OwnsFarm: F; YearsInUS: 45; MaritalStatus: Divorced; R
• Residence: 1910, Algoma, Kent, Michigan, USA; Age: 76; MaritalStatus: Divorced; RelationToHead: Head
• Residence: 1920, Kent, Michigan, USA; StreetAddress: Frances Avenue S. E.; Age: 86; AbleToSpeakEnglish: Yes; CanRead: Yes; CanWrite: Yes; EnumerationDistrict: 91; LanguageSpoken: French; RelationToHead: Grandfather; MaritalStatus: Widowed

Anson married Mary Mills on 28 Sep 1857 in North Dorchester, Middlesex, Ontario, Canada. Mary (daughter of Amasa Chase and Hannah Mills) was born in 1839 in Canada; died between 1866 and 1870. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events:

• Reference Number: 6529
• Residence: 1861, North Dorchester, Middlesex, Ontario, Canada

Notes:

The Mary Mills who appears on the 1861 Census in Southwold appears to be a different Mills family.

Notes by Kristin Schwark on findagrave.com:
Very little is known of my 3x great grandmother. I was able to connect with someone in North Dorchester, her only confirmed place of residence, and her marriage info was found. Mary Mills & Anson DeGroat wed on September 28, 1857 in Yarmouth, Elgin, Ontario. On the 1861 Census of Canada her estimated birth year was 1839 (Anson's was 1836, but actual year is 1833. I'm calculating that hers may have been fudged as well, at 1836). They had a daughter, Anna (1859). 4 years later, still in Canada, they had Lydia (Aug 1863). The family moved to Goodland, Lapeer, Michigan sometime between September 1863 and May 1866. Their daughter Mary was born there on June 12, 1866. Sometime between Mary Jr's birth, and Anson's next marriage on January 18, 1869, Mary Mills had died or abandoned her children. On the 1870 US Census, the 3 girls were with foster parents. Anna & Lydia were with the Carpenter's, and Mary Jr was with the McConnell's. Michigan death records were not kept formally until beginning in 1867, and fully by 1868. It is my conclusion that Mary did indeed die in Lapeer County. I will keep digging, and not let her slip through the cracks!!

A few notables from my ONLY record:

Born abt 1839 in Canada West (possibly fudged like Anson)
Religion: WM (living with/near Anson's family who were all listed as CPM)

In my search for Mills in or around North Dorchester (Middlesex County) and their marriage location (Elgin County) on the 1852 Census, I found a Mary Mills, born abt 1835, listed as Baptist, who was NOT living with her parents in 1861. Jesse, Matilda, Mary & siblings were in Southwold, Elgin County. Although the birth years are off (common occurrence), and the religion is different (she may have conformed to Anson), it seems to be the first real possibility I've found to who she is. I hope she didn't abandon these girls, and, I hope her death was not caused by Anson. (He remarried and abandoned a few times). I also thought she may have been buried in the local family plot on Henry Ruiter DeGroat's farm, but there seems to be no record of it. That burial ground was also known as Lum Cemetery, and is now Arcadia Township Cemetery. My guess is she is there with no record or headstone, or was returned to Canada. Her possible parents are in Iona Cemetery, but again, no record of her there either. The family had moved to Lambton County sometime between 1861 and 1871, so she may be buried in Lambton. She was so young and unexpected, they may have just buried her local to their current residence, versus going back to Elgin County, where Iona Cemetery and most of the family are.

1870 living in residence of Alexander and Phoebe Carpenter. Phebe is the daughter of Abner Chase and Lydia Upton. Also next door on the census is Sharley Wilson, another daughter of Abner and Lydia. Abner and Lydia are quakers in Yarmouth, Elgin County Ontario. We have multiple autosomal dna matches with Abner & Lydia although we do not know the exact relationship. Also both sisters had either a son or grandson of John Mills/Abigail Minard as a witness at their weddings in Canada. We also have multiple autosomal dna matches to John Mills/Abigail Minard, although we do not have the exact line fleshed out. Mary may be a granddaughter to them.

Based on numerous DNA matches we believe that Amasa Chase was the illegitimate father of Mary Mills. He was living in Yarmouth at the time. Numerous matches show that his DNA goes through Mary Mills line to her descendants. After Mary died, two of her children were 'adopted' by Amasa's sister, Phoebe Carpenter in Lapeer, Michigan. We believe Mary's mother was a child or grandchild of John Mills & Abigail Minard. Again, numerous DNA matches to Mills/Minard come through Mary's line. Mary would have grown up in one of the Mills households. Unfortunately, the 1851 census for the section of Yarmouth that the Mills family lived in is missing. The 1841 census was head of household only, and we cannot identify Mary. The 1861 Census shows Mary living with her husband, Anson Degroat.

A review of probate records shows that there is no record of probate for Mary or record of conservatorship for any of the children in Lapeer County.

A probate file at https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89SC-B6MF for Sharley Chase WIlson, daughter of Abner Chase and Lydia Mills refers to Anna Degroat Phelps (daughter of Mary Mills) as her niece. Niece would not be possible, however if Anna Degroat was her grandniece that would mean that a parent of Mary Mills would have been a sibling of Sharley. Thus, Mary Mills would be granddaughter of Abner Chase and Lydia Upton. The 1842 census of Yarmouth https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939D-VQCT-P?i=4&cc=1834342 shows 1 female under the age of 5 in the household of Abner Chase.

Died:
child born 1866-not on1870 census and children split up.