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Elisabeth Catharina Schneider

Elisabeth Catharina Schneider

Female 1868 - 1930  (62 years)

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Elisabeth Catharina Schneider was born on 2 Dec 1868 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia (daughter of Johann Georg Schneider and Anna Barbara Felsing); died on 16 Dec 1930 in Fresno, Fresno, California, USA.

    Other Events:

    • Name: Lizzie Busick
    • Reference Number: 4366
    • Birth: 1869
    • Birth: 1869, Russia
    • Birth: 1869, Russia
    • Arrival: 1912
    • Residence: 1920, Fresno, California, USA
    • Residence: 1930, Fresno, Fresno, California, USA

    Elisabeth married Johann Peter Busick in 1892 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia. Johann was born on 28 Apr 1871 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia; died on 30 Jun 1954 in Fresno, Fresno, California, USA; was buried in Fresno, Fresno County, California, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Johannes Busick was born on 15 Feb 1898 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia; died on 30 Sep 1968 in Fresno, Fresno, California, USA.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Johann Georg Schneider was born on 9 Jul 1848; died in 1912; was buried in 1924 in Fresno, Fresno, California, USA.

    Other Events:

    • Reference Number: 4692
    • Birth: 1847, Russia
    • Arrival: 1902
    • Residence: 1910, Fresno, California, USA

    Notes:

    Perhaps is the George Schneider born 1848, son of George Adam Schneider of Kukkus

    Buried:
    Mountain View Cemetery

    Johann married Anna Barbara Felsing. Anna (daughter of Johannes Felsing and Maria Elisabeth Kisselman) was born on 24 Feb 1848 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia; died on 13 Nov 1912 in Fresno, California, USA; was buried in 1912 in Fresno, Fresno, California, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Anna Barbara Felsing was born on 24 Feb 1848 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia (daughter of Johannes Felsing and Maria Elisabeth Kisselman); died on 13 Nov 1912 in Fresno, California, USA; was buried in 1912 in Fresno, Fresno, California, USA.

    Other Events:

    • Name: Barbara Ann Schneider
    • Reference Number: 5010
    • Birth: 1847, Russia
    • Birth: 23 Feb 1847, Russia
    • Residence: 1850, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH32
    • Residence: 1857, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH39
    • Arrival: 1902
    • Residence: 1910, Fresno, California, USA

    Notes:

    JHS Notes:
    In 1850 she was 2, and in 1857 she was 9. Given the dates of the revision lists, both ages tie back to 1848. If she was born in Feb 1847 these would clearly be 3 and 10.
    AHSGR Fresno notes give her death date as 13 Nov 1912 with an age of 64 years, 8 months, 20 days. This would suggest a birth date of about 24 Feb 1848.
    However, the same notes give a birth date of 23 Feb 1847, and her birth year is 1847 on her grave marker.
    I think 24 (or 23) Feb 1848 is actually correct. AHSGR Fresno notes are generally more accurate on the ages rather than the dates, and I'm inclined to think someone subtracted and came up with the wrong date.
    Ihave her as born 23-24 Feb 1848 with a note that her grave marker is believed to have the wrong year.


    Buried:
    Mountain View Cemetery

    Children:
    1. 1. Elisabeth Catharina Schneider was born on 2 Dec 1868 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia; died on 16 Dec 1930 in Fresno, Fresno, California, USA.
    2. Johann Peter Schneider was born on 12 Nov 1870 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia; died in 1944 in Fresno, California, USA.
    3. Conrad Schneider was born on 19 Mar 1886 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia; died on 11 May 1952 in Fresno, California, USA.


Generation: 3

  1. 6.  Johannes Felsing was born in 1811 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia (son of Johann Georg Felsing and Maria Charlotte Heizenraeder).

    Other Events:

    • Reference Number: 6160
    • Residence: 1816, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH62
    • Residence: 1834, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH19
    • Residence: 1850, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH32
    • Residence: 1857, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH39

    Johannes married Maria Elisabeth Kisselman. Maria (daughter of Johann Martin Kisselman and Anna Barbara Maser) was born in 1814. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 7.  Maria Elisabeth Kisselman was born in 1814 (daughter of Johann Martin Kisselman and Anna Barbara Maser).

    Other Events:

    • Name: Maria Elisabeth Kiselman
    • Reference Number: 6184
    • Residence: 1834, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH19
    • Residence: 1850, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH32
    • Residence: 1857, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH39

    Notes:

    Probably the daughter of Johann Martin Kisselmann b.1772 in Balzer and by 1798 was living in Kukkus. In 1834 Johann Martin Kisselman was living in HH#17, while Johannes Felsing and Maria Elisabeth Kisselman were living in HH#19. Being born in 1814, we do not have a census year which shows a child with her name living in the Johann Martin Kisselmann household.

    We strongly suspect that Maria Elisabeth is the daughter of Johann Martin Kisselman and Anna Barbara Maser based on the following facts:

    • The 1798 census shows only 4 other Kisselman households in the Volga German colonies. Mathias (Johann Martin's brother) in the nearby village of Anton. Mathias (Johann Martin's father in the nearby village of Balzer. Ludwig (No known relation) in the more distant village of Donhof. And Johannes (no known relation) in the more distant village of Grimm.It is certainly possible that Maria Elisabeth came from one of the households in Anton or Balzer. It is much less likely that she came from the more distant villages of Donhof or Grimm. I know of no Kukkus intermarriages from those last two villages.

    • The Johann Martin household is the only other Kisselman Family in Kukkus in 1834.

    • Johann Martin lives within 2 households from the Felsings, according to the 1834, 1850 and 1857 census records.

    • Johann Martin was having children from 1796 to at least 1812 that we know of. It is possible then that he had a child in 1814.

    Records from this time and place are simply incomplete. But based on what we know, it is most likely that Maria Elisabeth is the daughter of Johann Martin. Perhaps eventually we will find records to confirm or to dispute that, but for now I am listing Maria Elisabeth in the genealogy under Johann Martin Kisselman.

    Children:
    1. Johann Christoph Felsing was born on 30 Apr 1837; died on 18 Oct 1894.
    2. Johann Heinrich Felsing was born on 10 Apr 1839.
    3. Johann Georg Felsing was born on 2 Jun 1842; died in 1904.
    4. Johann Philipp Felsing was born on 10 Feb 1845 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia; died on 13 Feb 1890 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
    5. 3. Anna Barbara Felsing was born on 24 Feb 1848 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia; died on 13 Nov 1912 in Fresno, California, USA; was buried in 1912 in Fresno, Fresno, California, USA.


Generation: 4

  1. 12.  Johann Georg Felsing was born in 1783 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia (son of Johannes Felsing and Unknown Unknown); died in 1851 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

    Other Events:

    • Name: Georg Felsing
    • Name: Johann Georg Falsinger
    • Name: Johann Georg Feleing
    • Name: Johann Georg Felsing
    • Reference Number: 6187
    • Birth: 1784
    • Residence: 1798, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH38
    • Residence: 1816, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH62
    • Residence: 1834, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH19
    • Residence: 1850, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH32

    Notes:

    1798 census says he is the son of Johannes Feleing, deceased.

    Johann married Maria Charlotte Heizenraeder. Maria (daughter of Johann Thomas Heizenraeder and Anna Margareta Becker) was born in 1790. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 13.  Maria Charlotte Heizenraeder was born in 1790 (daughter of Johann Thomas Heizenraeder and Anna Margareta Becker).

    Other Events:

    • Reference Number: 4338
    • Birth: 1783
    • Birth: 1783
    • Birth: 1791
    • Residence: 1798, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH30
    • Residence: 1834, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH19
    • Residence: 1850, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH32

    Notes:

    The 1783 birth year on the 1834 census and the surname chart appears to be in error. Her mother would have been 13 when she was born! The age on the 1798 census and the 1850 census is more like it. Perhaps the 1834 entry was a transcription error and that was then picked up in the surname chart.

    Children:
    1. 6. Johannes Felsing was born in 1811 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
    2. Johann Christoph Felsing was born in 1814.
    3. Wilhelmine Felsing was born in 1820 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia; died on 15 Oct 1890 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
    4. Johann Georg Felsing was born in 1821.
    5. Anna Maria Felsing was born in 1825 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia; died on 21 Mar 1895 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
    6. Johann Jacob Felsing was born on 19 May 1828; died on 7 Jun 1906.
    7. Johann Peter Felsing was born on 21 Sep 1830.

  3. 14.  Johann Martin Kisselman was born in 1772 (son of Matthias Kisselman and Maria Elisabeth Huber); died in 1847 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

    Other Events:

    • Name: Johann Martin Kkisselmann
    • Name: Martin Kesselman
    • Name: Martin Kisselman
    • Name: Martin Kisselmann
    • Reference Number: 3100
    • Birth: 1772, Balzer, Saratov, Russia
    • Residence: 1775, Balzer, Saratov, Russia; HH12
    • Arrival: 1793, Kukkus, Samara, Russia
    • Residence: 1798, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH40
    • Residence: 1816, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH17
    • Residence: 1834, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH17

    Notes:

    1798 Census notes that he is from Balzer. He is probably the son of Matthias Kisselmann who is the only Kisselmann family on the 1767 Balzer Census.

    Birth:
    from Balzer Colony

    Johann married Anna Barbara Maser in 1793 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia. Anna (daughter of Gottfried Maser and Anna Eva Lutz) was born in 1775 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia; died before 1834. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 15.  Anna Barbara Maser was born in 1775 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia (daughter of Gottfried Maser and Anna Eva Lutz); died before 1834.

    Other Events:

    • Reference Number: 3084
    • Residence: 1798, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH40

    Notes:

    Died:
    not on 1834 census

    Children:
    1. Anna Maria Kisselmann was born in 1795.
    2. Gottfried Kisselman was born in 1812 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
    3. 7. Maria Elisabeth Kisselman was born in 1814.