Alva M Degroat

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• Reference Number: 5671

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• Birth: Canada
• Race: White
• Name: Elias
• Name: Elias Degroat
• Reference Number: 6754
• Residence: North Dorchester
• Residence: Married MaritalStatus: Married
• Birth: Abt 1836, Canada
• Residence: 1920, Saginaw, Saginaw, Michigan, USA; Age: 84; Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Father-in-law

Notes:

The death certificate of Elias shows parents of Henry Degroat & Margaret Dafoe. That appears to be a mistake. The 1852 Canada Census shows Elias in the household of Peter E Degroat, the same census shows in the 'age at next birthday' column 14 on Mar 17 (which would make birth date 17 Mar 1838). Death certificate shows birth date of 17 Mar 1836.

Died:
90 Age: 90

Elias married Charlotte Ann Hegler on 18 Jun 1862 in Elgin, Ontario, Canada. Charlotte was born about 1843 in Markham, York, Ontario, Canada. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Birth: Canada
• Race: White
• Name: Charlotte Degroat
• Name: Charlotte Groat
• Reference Number: 6773
• Residence: South Dorchester Township
• Birth: Abt 1844, Canada
• Arrival: 1878; Age: 34
• Residence: 1920, Saginaw, Saginaw, Michigan, USA; Age: 76; Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Mother-in-law

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• Birth: Belleville, Hastings, Ontario, Canada
• Race: Dutch
• Name: Peter
• Name: Peter Degroat
• Name: Peter Degroat
• Reference Number: 6796
• Residence: Middlesex East
• Birth: 1792, Canada
• Birth: 1 Dec 1793
• Residence: 1852, Dorchester North, Middlesex County, Ontario, Canada; Age: 60
• Residence: 1861, North Dorchester, Middlesex, Ontario, Canada
• Residence: 1871, Ontario, Canada; Age: 77
• Residence: 1871, Dorchester, Middlesex, Ontario, Canada; Age: 77; Marital Status: Married

Notes:

Peter Degroat Will
Middlesex County, Ontario probate book G, P315. FHL img 472
Date: 13 May 1878 (he died in June 1878).
Residence: North Dorchester, Middlesex, Ontario.
Executors: Samuel Whaley and John Dafoe
Wife: Harriet
Sons: Bradford and Jonathon
Daughters: Jane Furney and Catherine Schall.

Son Henry not mentioned, perhaps deceased. However, Anson and Elias, definately not deceased, but not mentioned.


Birth:
Jan 1852 be 60 on 21 Nov

Birth:
calculated from gravestone

Peter married Harriet Rebecca Van Norman on 8 May 1828 in Belleville, Hastings, Ontario, Canada. Harriet (daughter of John Van Norman and Rebecca Unknown) was born on 3 Jul 1809 in Ontario, Canada; died on 14 Mar 1890. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Race: German
• Name: Hariet Degroat
• Name: Harriet R
• Name: Harriet Rebecca VanNorman
• Name: Harriet Vanorman
• Reference Number: 6532
• Birth: 25 May 1806
• Birth: 1807, Ontario
• Residence: 1861, North Dorchester, Middlesex, Ontario, Canada
• Residence: 1881, Dorchester North, Middlesex East, Ontario, Canada; Age: 74; MaritalStatus: Widowed

Notes:

Harriet's maiden name (Van Norman)appears on the death records for at least two of her children, Jane Furney and Jonathan Degroat.

Birth:
from 1851 census. jan 1852 b3 43 on 3 Jul

Birth:
death of child

Birth:
from gravestone calc birth date 84-9-17

Died:
Avon United Cemetery, Avon, Middlesex County, Ontario, Canada

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Married:
St Thomas Church

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• Reference Number: 6244

Notes:

The only source for the 1746 birthdate and the 1830 death date appears to be an old DAR application. No sources were used. No sources can be found. The Joseph Degroat of Ulster County in the New York Militia listed an age of 24 in August of 1776. That would be a birth year of 1752. We do not know if that is the same Joseph Degroat. A Joseph Degroat appears on the Ulster County Census in 1790, 1800 and 1810. As it appears our Joseph was living in Quebec during that time period, it does not seem to be the same Joseph.

Heinrich/Henrich/Henry Ruiter (Joseph's father in law) a loyalist who fled to Ontario has mentioned his 'son-in-law Joseph Degroat' on some documents in Quebec. As we do have autosomal DNA matches through other children of Joseph and through other children of Henry Ruiter, It makes sense that our Joseph is the Joseph in Quebec with his wife and her father, Henry Ruiter.

The connection between Joseph and his assumed father, Pieter De Groot is very weak. Pieter DeGroat has one thrulines match through his son Johannes, however shared matches on that match do not indicate any other Degroat connections. Interestingly, thru Joseph's granddad we show 2 thruline connections thru Joseph's brother Johannes which both show shared matches indicative of Degroat ancestry. Perhaps Pieter's brother, Johannes is the father of Joseph. Although we have Johannes birth record, we have no proof he married and had children. His granddad's will did not mention a child named Johannes.

https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%2012578186/person/-222015170/media/3894dced-6ce3-4570-b0ac-74000422ccce

Birth:
??

Joseph married Hannah Ruiter. Hannah (daughter of Henrick Ruiter and Rebecka Daat) was born on 4 Mar 1774 in Schaghticoke, Rensselaer, New York, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: Annatje Ruiter
• Reference Number: 6248
• Baptism: 1774, Schaghticoke, Rensselaer, New York, USA; Age: 0

Notes:

baptised as Annatie/Annatje Ruiter at the Dutch Reform Church in Schaghticoke, Rensselaer, New York, USA. Some documents in Quebec of her father Henrich Ruiter mention his 'son-in-law' Joseph de Groat. In his book Rick Ashton "The life of Henry Ruiter" on page 52 assigns Joseph de Groat to his daughter Gertrude. He does not assign a husband to Hannah. We believe he erred, as the specific daughter who married Joseph De Groat was not mentioned in any records that he had seen. I do not know what his reasoning was.

Birth:
baptism date

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• Name: Johannes Van Arnum
• Reference Number: 7622
• Birth: 25 Apr 1777

Notes:

Birth:
baptism

John married Rebecca Unknown on 12 Dec 1834. Rebecca was born about 1780. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 7607

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Birth:
based on 1st child