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Sophronia Irish

Sophronia Irish

Female 1868 - 1937  (~ 68 years)

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  1. 1.  Sophronia IrishSophronia Irish was born in Mar 1868 in Tuscola, Michigan, USA (daughter of William W Irish and Henrietta Phelps); died in 1937.

    Other Events:

    • Reference Number: 5929
    • Residence: 1870, Fairgrove, Tuscola, Michigan, USA

    Notes:

    unable to find birth record in tuscola birth ledger

    Sophronia married Nathaniel Eugene Tallmadge on 10 Dec 1892 in Lapeer, Lapeer, Michigan, USA. Nathaniel (son of Ira N Tallmadge and Jane Shafto) was born on 11 Dec 1865; died on 7 Jul 1923. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Sophronia married Elias Bills on 4 Jul 1883 in Flint, Genesee, Michigan, USA. Elias (son of Alvah Bills and Julia Sheldon) was born on 20 Dec 1854 in Michigan, USA; died in 1925. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Roy Bills was born in Jul 1885 in Michigan, USA.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  William W IrishWilliam W Irish was born on 14 May 1834 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA (son of Amos Irish and Lovina Harris); died on 14 Jul 1913 in Caro, Tuscola, Michigan, USA; was buried after 14 Jul 1913 in Fairgrove, Tuscola, Michigan, USA.

    Other Events:

    • Birth: Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
    • Name: William Irish
    • Reference Number: 5901
    • Birth: 1830, New York, USA
    • Birth: 12 May 1830, New York, USA
    • Birth: 1831, New York, USA
    • Birth: May 1831, New York, USA
    • Birth: 1832, New York, USA
    • Birth: 1834, New York, USA
    • Birth: 14 May 1834, Washington, New York, USA
    • Residence: 1850, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
    • Residence: 1855, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
    • Residence: 1860, Davison, Genesee, Michigan, USA
    • _MILT: Between 22 Aug 1864 and 6 Sep 1865, Cowan, Franklin, Tennessee, USA; Civil War-A Co 29th Mi Inf
    • Residence: 1870, Fairgrove, Tuscola, Michigan, USA
    • Residence: 1880, Tuscola, Michigan, USA
    • Residence: 1900, Ellington, Tuscola, Michigan, USA
    • Residence: 1910; Almer, Tuscola, Michigan
    • Probate: 14 Aug 1914, Caro, Tuscola, Michigan, USA; see notes for probate news

    Notes:

    Born May 14, 1834 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York to Amos Irish and Vina Harris of Fort Ann. His parentage is confirmed by a Marriage Record filed in Lapeer County on 10 Aug 1901 where he lists the names of his parents. (The book, Descendants of John Irish, The Immigrant, lists his parents as David Irish and Sally Phelps, but we now know that is incorrect)

    He married Henrietta Phelps, daughter of Reuben Gibson Phelps and Mary Crossett of Fort Ann in Kingsbury, Washington, New York by 1857. On his military pension application paperwork he listed this date as 1842, which is obviously incorrect, as he would have been only 8 at the time. In the 1850 Census he was living with Amos and Vina Irish without a wife. So perhaps he meant 1852. His first child was born abt May 1855. (Albert on the 6/13/1855 New York State Census for Fort Ann as 1 month old; apparently died young, does not appear on any future census)

    On the 1855 New York State Census for Fort Ann he and Henrietta are living with his parents, Amos and Vina.

    By the 1860 census he and Henrietta are living within a few households of his in-laws, Reuben G and Mary Phelps in Davison, Genesee, Michigan.

    On 12/14/1861 he is living in Fairgrove, Tuscola, Michigan where is listed on the Tuscola County marriage record of Henrietta’s aunt Sarah Rebecca Phelps; “I do hereby certify that on the fifteenth day of December in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty one at the house of William Irish in the Township of Fairgrove Joseph O. Shultz aged twenty three and Sarah R Phelps aged sixteen years both of the Township of Fairgrove”

    On 22 Aug 1864 William Irish joined the 29th Michigan Infantry to serve in the War of the Rebellion. He was a private stationed in Cowan, Tennessee. After prolonged exposure to an ice storm, while guarding a railroad bridge, he fell ill and spent the rest of his life with lung and digestive problems. He was discharged from the Army for medical reasons on 06 Sep 1865.

    On the 1870 and 1880 census he is still living in Fairgrove with Henrietta.

    His wife, Henrietta died, 5 Oct 1887. Her gravestone which is next to Williams in Moreland Cemetery in Fairgrove, Tuscola, Michigan says; “Henriette Wife of Wm. Irish Jan 28, 1835-Oct 5 1887”.

    On the 1900 Census he is living in Ellington, Tuscola, Michigan with his daughter Sophronia.

    William remarried 10 Aug 1901 to Laura Murna, daughter of Julius Balwin and Lucinda Pierce, both of NY . She died about 1906-1907. We know no more about her. It is on this Lapeer County Marriage record where we find our only known record of his parents names.

    On the 1910 census he is living in Almer, Tuscola, Michigan with his daughter Sophronia.

    He died on 14 July 1913 in Caro where he was living with his daughter Ida. His gravestone in Moreland Cemetery, Fairgrove reads; “William Irish Pvt 29th Mich Inf July 14, 1915”. The year on the gravestone is obviously incorrect as his military pension records clearly show he died 7/14/1913, the Tuscola County death ledger shows 7/14/1913 and a probate file was opened in Tuscola County on 8/14/1914.

    Willis Irish in his book has William married to Polly by 1855 and only marrying Henrietta, his housekeeper after Polly dies. That is incorrect. His military pension file shows he married Henrietta Phelps in Kingsbury, New York. We have Tuscola County birth records for two of their children, Mary and Ida which both show Henrietta as the mother. We have the marriage record for his son Alfred which also shows Henrietta as the mother. A form to obtain burial reimbursement from the bureau of pensions filed by his son-in-law after his death lists Henrietta as his first wife and Mrs. Murna as his second wife. The wives are numbered first and second and Polly is not mentioned. The 1855 New York state census lists Polly as a child of Amos. It is obvious that Polly is a sister to William.

    William’s date of birth varies from 1830 to 1834 on the census records. He also supplied at least 3 different years of birth during his pension application process. The bureau of pensions finally accepted 1832 as correct. This would conflict with the 1850 census by two years, which is the earliest census record where his age is listed.

    (P130) Civil War Pension File- NARA
    2/15/1909 affidavit of William Irish-

    I make the following declaration, to correct a statement made by me on March 3, 1907 in which I stated I was 77 years of age born May 14, 1829. That was an error. I was born May 14, 1832 and am past 76 years of age. There is no record public or private of my (birth). (Ever) since I could remember I knew my birthday was May 14 and that I was born in 1832. My memory is not as good as when I was younger and when making the statement called on gave 1829 when I should have said 1832 which I am positive is the correct date.

    Signed with his mark (Note: we know from census info that neither William or Henrietta could read or write)

    Witnessed by
    N E Tallmadge
    John Abell

    Notes:(Nathaniel E Tallmadge is the husband of his daughter Sophronia Irish)
    (John Abell is the husband of his daughter Ida Irish)

    It should be noted that age has a bearing on the amount of pension paid. At age 62, age 70 and age 75 the rates go up. So there is an incentive for the pensioner to pad his age. William Irish’s earliest age record would be the Oct 1850 census where he was listed as 16. That would translate to a year of birth of 1834, which would make him younger and pay him less pension money. The book “The Descendants of John Irish” lists him at 1834. A listing of census dates, ages and translated years of birth recorded before the pension application is as follows:

    Oct 1850 Census 16 1834
    August 1860 Census 28 1832
    June 1870 Census 39 1831
    June 1880 Census 50 1830

    So it would seem that every 10 years he aged 11 or 12 years! I would say that as the years went by he probably forgot his year of birth and the earlier entries listed are more likely to be correct. 1834, which was the earliest entry used would probably have the most likelihood of being correct.

    The Tuscola County Birth Ledger entry for his daughter Mary Udora Irish lists William and Henrietta as both being born in Fort Ann, New York. The other birth, death and marriage records only list New York. William’s military pension application lists Washington County, New York as his place of birth.

    Children of William Irish and Henrietta Phelps:

    Albert b abt May 1855 apparently died young

    Vermilla b.1857-58 New York

    Alfred b. Feb 1860 Michigan m. Mary T Gelisse 19 Apr 1892 Reese, Tuscola, Michigan

    Julius b. 23 Apr 1861 Fairgrove d. 11 Feb 1940 Sandusky, Sanilac, Michigan
    m. Mary McCarthy 26 Feb 1884 Lapeer, Lapeer, Michigan

    Sophronia b. Mar 1868 d. 1937 m. Elias Bills 4 Jul 1883 Flint, Genesee, Michigan m. Nathaniel Eugene Tallmadge 10 Dec 1892 Lapeer, Lapeer, Michigan

    Mary Udora b. 19 May 1870 Fairgrove m. Alfred Ralston 4 Oct 1886 Caro, Tuscola, Michigan m. Samuel Wedge 22 Feb 1905 Bay City, Bay, Michigan

    Nellie (Nettie) b. Jun 1872 Fairgrove m. William E Gillett 3 Jun 1894 Grand Blanc, Genesee, Michigan

    Ida b. 14 Aug 1876 Fairgrove m. John Abell

    Sources:

    Tuscola County Birth Records: Ida Irish, Mary Irish

    Tuscola County Death Records: William Irish, Henrietta Irish

    Tuscola County Marriage Records: Alfred Irish, Ida Irish, Mary Irish, Sarah R Phelps

    Genesee County Marriage Records: Sophronia Irish, Nellie Irish

    Lapeer County Marriage records: Sophronia Irish, William Irish

    Bay County Marriage Records: Mary Irish

    Military Pension Records File (NARA): William Irish

    US Census Records: 1850, 1860, 1870, 1880, 1900 and 1910
    Descendants of John Irish The Immigrant 1629-1963 and Families by Willis Luther Irish And Stella Bertha (Putnam) Irish 1964
    Some notes on his Civil War Pension file from NARA: Verifies most of the info we already knew about William. The major exception is that nothing about his parents is stated. Added info about a 2nd wife later in life. As part of the pension process the government asked for statements from people who knew him and served with him in the army. There are 21 handwritten statements, some 3-4 pages long. The only name we have heard before is Samuel Fairbanks. Also statements from doctors paint a picture of a sickly man who had many difficulties as life went on. Amazing that he made it to 82 years of age. I find fascinating the statements from his fellow comrades in the military. In the winter of 1865 he was involved in guarding a railway bridge in Cowan, Tennessee. He was exposed to a violent sleet storm during a 6 hour guard shift. His corporeal who relieved him of guard duty said he was coated with ice. He got very sick, very bad cold, coughing and basically the rest of his life, slowly got worse. Coughing and lung problems never went away. Constant bouts of severe diarrhea throughout his life. Everyone who knew him stated that when he came back from the service he was constantly coughing. One said he came back half the man he once was. Medical conditions are catarrh and catarrah of the head, lung problems, kidney problems, partial deafness, intestinal problems. Some of the forms say 5'10" some 5'7". Weight from 115 lbs to 125 lbs. A doctor who examined him in 1885 (note-this was before Henrietta had died) stated emaciated, unable to walk around but for short distances, unable to work.

    More Notes:
    (P117-118) William Irish died July 14, 1913 per John Abell, his son-in-law, with whom he was living at the time at 214 E Goarty St (on numerous bureau records) (John Abell wrote in hand 214 E Grant St)(P99) in Caro, Mi. Buried in Moreland Cemetery. (in 1900 and 1910 he was staying with Sophronia, but in 1913 when he died he was staying with Ida).

    (P128, P123) (William Irish stated he was born in Washington County, New York.)

    (P117) 1st wife was Henrietta Phelps who died about 10/5/1888 (note: we show 10/5/1887 per cemetery record) 2nd wife was Mrs Neuezna (Neuersna?Neuerna?Neuerma?) first name unknown died about 1906 (this was per John Abell on Application for Reimbursement Form on April 18,1914)(must have been married after 1900, cause not show up on any census) (Unusual that the children did not know her first name)

    (P106) Married 1842 in Kingsbury, Washington County, New York. He stated never previously married. Per Pension form filled out June 4, 1898 by William Irish. Note:(obviously incorrect date, he would have been 8 at the time. Another reason why we have problems with dates) (we know from the census it would be after 1850. 1st child born 1857) (Kingsbury is just south of Fort Ann on the map)

    (P137) Original pension application filed May 16, 1888. (This would have been after Henrietta had died) (this appears to be the earliest form)

    (P6) Sept 10, 1890-pension application form-not the first application.

    (P12) July 27, 1888 bureau of pensions requests records from war dept

    (P37) Nov 27,1890-deposition of Wm Irish explaining his illness. Witness Miss Nettie Irish and James E. Hoye (James E Hoye was an employee of the Bureau of Pensions in East Saginaw.)

    (P97) Another document witnessed by Miss Nettie Irish.

    This shows us that Nettie is the going name for his daughter Nellie (who would have been 18 at the time) The two references I had earlier come up with for Nettie Irish who I believed could be William’s daughter, now I am sure that they are his daughter.

    (P111) casket receipt $91


    Birth:
    pension records, dau mary birth record,1850 census

    Birth:
    date not given

    Birth:
    from death cert--this is probably incorrect date

    Birth:
    from military pension paperwork

    Buried:
    Moreland Cemetery

    Died:
    Buried Moreland Cemetery, Tuscola, Michigan, USA

    William married Henrietta Phelps between 1850 and 1855 in Kingsbury, Washington, New York, USA. Henrietta (daughter of Reuben Gibson Phelps and Mary Crossett) was born on 28 Jan 1835 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA; died on 5 Oct 1887 in Tuscola, Michigan, USA; was buried after 5 Oct 1887 in Fairgrove, Tuscola, Michigan, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Henrietta Phelps was born on 28 Jan 1835 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA (daughter of Reuben Gibson Phelps and Mary Crossett); died on 5 Oct 1887 in Tuscola, Michigan, USA; was buried after 5 Oct 1887 in Fairgrove, Tuscola, Michigan, USA.

    Other Events:

    • Reference Number: 5949
    • Residence: 1850, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
    • Residence: 1855, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
    • Residence: 1860, Davison, Genesee, Michigan, USA
    • Residence: 1870, Fairgrove, Tuscola, Michigan, USA
    • Residence: 1880, Fairgrove, Tuscola, Michigan, USA

    Notes:

    Tuscola County Death ledger record----10/24/1887 Henrietta Irish female white married 68y 9m 3d died Fairgrove pneumonia born Canada housewife unknown parents parents residence Canada

    The age is 16 years off, Canada is incorrect, parents from England is incorrect. But am unable to find another Henrietta Irish or another unrelated Irish family in the area. Dod is close. This may be correct person with lots of incorrect information on the record.

    Inscription Moreland Cemetery-Fairgrove. 1/28/1835 to 10/5/1887 wife of William

    Name appears as Hannah on 1855, 1860 and 1880 census.
    Name appears as Henrietta on husbands military pension and 1880 census.
    Name appears as Henriette or Hanriett on fathers will, grave stone and dau Mary's birth certificate. 1880 census is conclusive if last letter is a or e.


    Buried:
    Moreland Cemetery

    Notes:

    Married:
    per statement on Williams pension application

    Children:
    1. Albert Irish was born about May 1855 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA.
    2. Vermilla Irish was born between 1857 and 1858 in New York, USA.
    3. Julius Irish was born between 1860 and 1863 in Michigan, USA; died on 11 Feb 1940 in Sandusky, Sanilac, Michigan, USA.
    4. Alfred Irish was born about Feb 1860 in Michigan, USA.
    5. 1. Sophronia Irish was born in Mar 1868 in Tuscola, Michigan, USA; died in 1937.
    6. Mary Udora Irish was born on 19 May 1870 in Fairgrove, Tuscola, Michigan, USA; was buried in Bay City, Bay County, Michigan, United States of America.
    7. Nellie Irish was born in Jun 1872 in Michigan, USA.
    8. Ida Irish was born on 14 Aug 1876 in Fairgrove, Tuscola, Michigan, USA; died after 1913.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Amos Irish was born in 1786 in Amenia, Dutchess, New York, USA (son of Benjamin Irish); died on 15 Jun 1867 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA.

    Other Events:

    • Reference Number: 6086
    • Residence: 1825, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
    • Residence: 1835, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
    • Residence: 1850, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA

    Notes:

    http://lthome.com/john-irish/war_heros_and_vetrans.htm

    Page 136

    3458. Amos Irish b. in 1786 at Amenia, Dutchess County, N.Y. d. 6-15-1867, age 81 years. His Will was dated June 28, 1864. On his application #3682 for a pension for service in the War of 1812, he was granted a pension of $13.50.

    Probate packet # 687 Warren County, New York (accessible on familysearch.org img 617) lists heirs:
    Rhoda Irish-his widow-Queensbury, NY
    children:
    Priscilla Sheldon-Queensbury
    Hepsibeth Rich-Fort Ann
    Rebecca Ripley-Fort Ann
    Sidney B Irish-Fort Ann
    Dorothy Irish-Fort Ann
    Brazilla Irish-Hague, NY
    Laura Stiles- Potsdam, New york
    Uriah Irish-Ortonville, MI
    Polly Irish-Fairgrove, MI
    William W Irish-Fairgrove, MI

    Amos married Lovina Harris on 21 Sep 1806 in Amenia, Dutchess, New York, USA. Lovina (daughter of Moses Harris and Grace Unknown) was born on 5 Jan 1788 in Amenia, Dutchess, New York, USA; died on 20 Mar 1859 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Lovina Harris was born on 5 Jan 1788 in Amenia, Dutchess, New York, USA (daughter of Moses Harris and Grace Unknown); died on 20 Mar 1859 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA.

    Other Events:

    • Reference Number: 5831
    • Residence: 1850, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA

    Children:
    1. Hepsibah Irish was born on 17 Nov 1807; died on 22 Aug 1898.
    2. Polly Irish was born in 1809 in New York, USA.
    3. Priscilla Irish was born in 1810.
    4. Sally Irish was born in 1813 in Washington, New York, USA.
    5. Laura Irish was born in 1815 in New York, USA.
    6. Dorothy Dolly Irish was born in 1817 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA.
    7. Barzilla Streeter Irish was born on 22 Mar 1818 in Amenia, Dutchess, New York, USA.
    8. Uriah S Irish was born on 3 Feb 1819; died on 18 Jul 1901 in Brandon, Oakland, Michigan, USA.
    9. Rebecca Irish was born in 1820 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA.
    10. Sidney B Irish was born in 1830 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA; died in 1912 in Catskill, Greene, New York, USA.
    11. 2. William W Irish was born on 14 May 1834 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA; died on 14 Jul 1913 in Caro, Tuscola, Michigan, USA; was buried after 14 Jul 1913 in Fairgrove, Tuscola, Michigan, USA.

  3. 6.  Reuben Gibson Phelps was born between 1814 and 1815 in New York, USA (son of Norman Phelps, Jr and Hannah Chase); died on 15 Jul 1879 in Burton, Genesee, Michigan, USA.

    Other Events:

    • Reference Number: 6159
    • Residence: 1 Jun 1840, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
    • Residence: 1850, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
    • Possessions: 15 Dec 1856, Davison, Genesee, Michigan, USA
    • Residence: 1860, Davison, Genesee, Michigan, USA
    • Residence: 1870, Davison, Genesee, Michigan, USA
    • Will: 29 Mar 1879, Burton, Genesee, Michigan, USA

    Notes:

    Transcript of Reuben G Phelps death certicate in Genesee County does not show parents name or address. Cause of death: congestion of the brain and spine.

    He is a listed as an an heir on probate paperwork of Norman Phelps, Jr of Warren County, New York.

    1880 census death schedule shows died in July of prev year and had lived in county for 26 years. which would indicate moved to Genesee County in 1853. (Adaline born in New York in 1853, Alice born in Genesee in 1855.) Land patent was in 1856.

    http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/Results.asp?QryId=46370.41 land patent

    Nine of his ten listed children signed on his will. The exception being Lavona, who had died earlier.

    Reuben married Mary Crossett. Mary (daughter of John Crossett, Jr) was born between 1813 and 1819 in New York, USA; died on 31 Jan 1904 in Burton, Genesee, Michigan, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Mary Crossett was born between 1813 and 1819 in New York, USA (daughter of John Crossett, Jr); died on 31 Jan 1904 in Burton, Genesee, Michigan, USA.

    Other Events:

    • Reference Number: 5832
    • Residence: 1880, Burton, Genesee, Michigan, USA
    • Census: 1900, Burton, Genesee, Michigan, USA

    Notes:

    2/1/1904 Flint Daily News-Flint, Michigan

    (HEADLINE:) She lived alone near her son. When found her body was found lying on the bed with the clothing burned off.

    Mrs. Mary Phelps met with a terrible death last evening, shortly before 6 o'clock, being burned to death at her home on the farm of her son, Jerome, on Atherton Street in Burton.
    Mrs. Phelps lived alone in a little house about 4 rods east of the residence of the son named, and (her) grandson Arthur, living several rods east of her. Last evening, between 5 and 6 o'clock her son went to the house where his mother lived to fix the fire and found her seated before the stove. He did what was necessary to the stove and cautioned the old lady, who was about eighty-six, not to meddle with the fire. Shortly before 6 o’clock Arthur left his house to go to the barn to harness a horse to take two ladies who were visiting him to the electric railway station at Morrish’s crossing, and while passing the house smelled smoke. He groped his way to the chair in which his grandmother usually sat, and finding her not there ran to the bed, on which he found her lying. He was unable to carry her out and called for his father. Together they carried the bed out of the house and found Mrs. Phelps was dead. Her clothing had been burned off her body and the bed clothing had been burned. It is supposed that her clothing caught fire and she rushed to the bed and threw herself upon it in the hope that the fire would be extinguished by so doing, or that a spark set fire to her dress and she went to bed, and while lying down the spark burst into a blaze and she was burned to death. The two young ladies who were visiting the younger Phelps passed the house a few minutes before Arthur did and smelled nothing.
    Mrs. Phelps was born in New York and came to Davison with her husband, R.G. Phelps about 50 years ago. They lived in Davison for about twenty years and then moved to Burton where Mr. Phelps died about twenty-five years ago. She is survived by six children. They are Jerome, of Burton; Leander, of Saginaw; Eugene, who lives in California; Mrs. Delos Cole, of St. Johns; Mrs. Adaline Thompson, who lives near Millington, and Alice of Gratiot county.
    Dr. Charles was notified and went to Burton last night, but did not deem an inquest necessary.
    The funeral will be held on Wednesday at 10 a.m. from the home of her son, Jerome. Interment will be made in the Kitchen cemetery in Davison.

    (death certificate lists cause of death-smothered by smoke) (death certificate list John Crosette as her father, mother unknown). Deed in Fort Ann, Washington County, New York 7/12/1849, Reuben G. Phelps and his wife Mary purchased land in Fort Ann from John Crosett and his wife Lucy. Deed Liber book 21. page 178.


    Buried:
    Kitchen Cemetery, Davison, Genesee, Michigan, USA

    Children:
    1. 3. Henrietta Phelps was born on 28 Jan 1835 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA; died on 5 Oct 1887 in Tuscola, Michigan, USA; was buried after 5 Oct 1887 in Fairgrove, Tuscola, Michigan, USA.
    2. Delia Phelps was born in 1838; died on 2 Apr 1913 in St Johns, Clinton, Michigan, USA.
    3. Leander Phelps was born on 10 Dec 1841 in New York, USA; died on 13 Feb 1909 in Chesaning, Saginaw, Michigan, USA.
    4. Eugene Phelps was born in 1843 in Washington, New York, USA; died after 1920.
    5. Jerome Phelps was born on 14 Sep 1845 in New York, USA; died on 24 Apr 1913.
    6. Sandra Luceba Phelps was born on 13 Nov 1847; died on 12 Apr 1900 in St Johns, Clinton, Michigan, USA.
    7. Freeland Phelps was born on 16 Nov 1849 in Fort Edward, Washington, New York, USA; died on 12 Jan 1884.
    8. Adeline Phelps was born in 1853 in New York, USA; died on 22 Sep 1914 in Genesee, Michigan, USA.
    9. Alice Phelps was born in 1855 in Michigan, USA.
    10. Lavona Phelps was born on 29 Jul 1856 in Michigan, USA; died on 13 Feb 1864 in Michigan, USA; was buried after 13 Feb 1864 in Davison, Genesee, Michigan, USA.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Benjamin Irish was born on 16 Mar 1750 in Kingston, Washington, Rhode Island, USA (son of Joseph Irish and Dorcas Helme).

    Other Events:

    • Reference Number: 3784

    Notes:

    I am unable to find a spouses name for Benjamin. Some of the online genealogies are mixed up with other Benjamins. In particular, Anna Merwin and Naomi Palmer are spouses to other Benjamin Irishs.

    Per "The Settlers of the Beekman Patent Vol 7 P148" Benjamin does not appear on the 1790 Census and there are no probate records for him in Washington County, New York.

    Children:
    1. David Irish was born on 23 Jan 1783 in Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA; died on 8 Jan 1855 in Groveland, Oakland, Michigan, USA; was buried after 8 Jan 1855 in Ortonville, Oakland, Michigan, USA.
    2. Andrew Irish was born in 1784.
    3. 4. Amos Irish was born in 1786 in Amenia, Dutchess, New York, USA; died on 15 Jun 1867 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA.
    4. Jonathon Irish was born on 27 Jul 1789 in New York, USA; died on 20 Oct 1870 in Belmont, Allegany, New York, USA.

  2. 10.  Moses Harris was born before 1770.

    Other Events:

    • Reference Number: 489

    Notes:

    Birth:
    based on child's birth

    Moses married Grace Unknown. Grace was born before 1770. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  3. 11.  Grace Unknown was born before 1770.

    Other Events:

    • Reference Number: 1944

    Notes:

    Birth:
    based on child's birth

    Children:
    1. 5. Lovina Harris was born on 5 Jan 1788 in Amenia, Dutchess, New York, USA; died on 20 Mar 1859 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA.

  4. 12.  Norman Phelps, JrNorman Phelps, Jr was born on 9 Nov 1787 in Vermont, USA (son of Norman Phelps and Sarah Cole); died on 19 May 1871 in Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA; was buried after 19 May 1871 in Warren, New York, USA.

    Other Events:

    • Name: Harman Phelps
    • Name: Norman Phelps Jr Jr
    • Name: Norman Phelps Senr
    • Reference Number: 6396
    • Birth: 1787, Vermont, USA
    • Birth: 1788, Connecticut, USA
    • Birth: 1788, New York, USA
    • Birth: Nov 1788, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
    • Birth: 1789, Massachusetts, USA
    • Birth: Abt 1789
    • Birth: 1805, New York, USA
    • Residence: 1810; Queensbury, Washington, New York
    • _MILT: 1814, New York, USA; 23rd Regiment, New York Militia
    • _MILT: 12 Sep 1814, New York, USA
    • Residence: 1820, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
    • Residence: 1825, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
    • Residence: 1830, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
    • Residence: 1835, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
    • Residence: 1 Jun 1840, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
    • Residence: 1850, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
    • Residence: 1855, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA; Age: 66; Relation to Head of House: Head
    • Residence: 1860, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
    • Residence: 1865, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
    • Residence: 1870, Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA
    • Probate: 1878, Washington, New York, USA; Release of Real Estate by heirs

    Notes:

    NORMAN PHELPS JR

    Norman Phelps Jr was born in the vicinity of Bradford, Vermont on 9 Nov 1787. We arrived at this conclusion after analyzing much confusing and conflicting information. The phelpsinc.com website shows Fort Ann, New York in Nov 1788. Norman Phelps himself had listed 4 different States of birth on 4 different census records; New York (1850), Massachusetts (1855), Vermont (1860) and Connecticut (1870)!! This confusion is apparently from his father Norman Phelps, Sr having moved around considerably during the few years before and after Norman's birth. This movement is logged in Norman Sr's military pension file. Approximate dates are given for each move in terms of number of years after the war. It is very approximate. Apparently Norman was aware of the movement, but was himself confused as to which State his father was actually living when Norman Jr was born. The only documentation we have is a log entry by Mrs. Lydia Phelps Baldwin of Bradford, Vermont who logged every birth she attended over a 52 year span, over 500 names (New England Historical & Genealogical Register 1950 Vol 104 P263). She recorded the birth of a son to Norman Phelps on 9 Nov 1787. Unfortunately she did not record the spouses name or the sons name, so we can not be certain that this is the same person. However Norman Sr did not have any sons other than Norman in this time period. Mrs Baldwin was a first cousin to Norman Sr and a review of her log entries shows that she also assisted in delivery of Dewey and Horsford children who were related to Norman Sr's mother, Desire Dewey. Norman Jr's grave stone shows died 19 May 1871 age 83 & 6 mos, which is Nov 1787. Considering that his father's pension record shows that he was in Vermont in that approximate time period and that the midwife keeping the log was his fathers close relative, then this birth date and place becomes quite plausible.

    According to the 1790 Federal Census Norman was living in Kingsbury. According to his fathers pension file, they lived in Kingsbury for a total of 3 years then moved to Fort Ann where Norman Jr lived until sometime prior to 1870 when he moved to Queensbury, New York.

    The records for the War of 1812 show Norman Phelps Jr as a private in the 23rd Regiment (Cook's) of the New York Militia.

    He died 19 May 1871 in (Queensbury) Warren County, New York. He is buried in Seelye Cemetery in Warren County, New York.

    He married first in 1809 to Thankful Chase. Thankful Chase is the daughter of Caleb Chase and Hannah Ellison. She was born on 11 Feb 1791 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA. Her death 1860 in Novi, Oakland, Michigan, USA (after summer 1860). They had no children.

    He married second in 1810 to her sister Hannah Chase. She was born on 05 Mar 1785 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA. She died 1834.

    Children of Norman Phelps Jr and Hannah Chase:

    1. Evalina Phelps. Born abt 1813. Married first William Brown with whom she had 7 children. Married 2nd Solomon Dickinson in 1853.

    2. Reuben Gibson Phelps. He was born Bet. 1814-1815 in New York, New York, USA. He died on 15 Jul 1879 in Burton, Genesee, Michigan, USA.

    3. Samuel Stiles Phelps. He was born on 16 Dec 1816 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA. He married Catherine Dempsey. They were married 1850. He died on 17 Sep 1893 in Town Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA.

    4. Asa Phelps. He was born 1818. Probably died young.

    5. Gilbert Phelps. He was born 1820. Probably died young.

    6. Sylvia Ann Phelps. She was born on 24 Jul 1825 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA. She married Elbridge Gerry Cilley. They were married on 10 Jan 1843 in Warren, New York, USA. She died on 26 Aug 1869 in Bolton, Warren, New York, USA.

    He married for third time to Minerva Burdick in approx. 1843. He was Minerva's second husband (Fredrick Plum being her first).

    Minerva had a child with Fredrick Plum:
    1) Martha Minerva Plum. She was born on 30 Oct 1838. She married Justin Merrill. Their marriage Bef. 1855 (not in mother's household 1855 census). She died on 15 Oct 1911 in Bolton, Warren, New York, USA. (Her death certificate shows Fredrick Plum and Minerva Burdick as parents).

    Children of Norman Phelps Jr and Minerva Burdick:

    1. Andrew James Phelps. His birth on 09 Dec 1843 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA. He died on 05 Oct 1923 in Washington, New York, USA.

    2. Sarah Rebecca Phelps. Her birth Apr 1845 in New York, USA (based on all avail evidence). She married Joseph Oscar Shultz. They were married on 15 Dec 1861 in Fairgrove, Tuscola, Michigan, USA. She died on 05 Apr 1932 in Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA.


    Birth:
    per phelpsinc.com

    Buried:
    Seelye Cemetery

    Norman married Hannah Chase in 1810. Hannah (daughter of Caleb Chase and Hannah Ellison) was born on 5 Mar 1785 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA; died in 1834. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  5. 13.  Hannah Chase was born on 5 Mar 1785 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA (daughter of Caleb Chase and Hannah Ellison); died in 1834.

    Other Events:

    • Reference Number: 5788

    Notes:

    Married:
    no source for date, would have been 2nd marriage. 6 known children

    Children:
    1. Evelina Phelps was born in 1813 in New York, USA; died after 1880.
    2. 6. Reuben Gibson Phelps was born between 1814 and 1815 in New York, USA; died on 15 Jul 1879 in Burton, Genesee, Michigan, USA.
    3. Samuel Stiles Phelps was born on 16 Dec 1816 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA; died on 17 Sep 1893 in Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA; was buried after 17 Sep 1893 in Warren, New York, USA.
    4. Asa Phelps was born in 1818; died in UNKNOWN.
    5. Gilbert Phelps was born in 1820; died in UNKNOWN.
    6. Sylvia Ann Phelps was born on 24 Jul 1825 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA; died on 26 Aug 1869 in Bolton, Warren, New York, USA.

  6. 14.  John Crossett, Jr was born between 1780 and 1790 in Massachusetts, USA (son of John Crossett, Sr).

    Other Events:

    • Reference Number: 5776
    • Residence: 1820, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA

    Notes:

    Deed in Fort Ann, Washington County, New York, 7/12/1849. Reuben G. Phelps and his wife Mary purchased land in Fort Ann from John Crosett and his wife Lucy. Deed Liber book 21. page 178.

    on 1820 census john is bet 26 & 45; dob would be 1775 to 1794 living with him is 1 male bet 10 & 16, 2 females less than 10 and 1 female bet w6 & 45. Farmers.

    on 1840 census john is bet 50 & 60; dob would be 1780-1790. living with him is 1 male 15-20, 1 female 15-20 and 1 female 50-60. Farmers.

    Children:
    1. 7. Mary Crossett was born between 1813 and 1819 in New York, USA; died on 31 Jan 1904 in Burton, Genesee, Michigan, USA.