George Seeley

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• Reference Number: 5950
• Birth: 17 Mar 1862
• Residence: 1870, Portsmouth, Bay, Michigan, USA
• Residence: 1880, Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA
• Residence: 1900, Frankenlust, Bay, Michigan, USA

Notes:

Birth:
calc from dod on Bay County death register

Birth:
dob on michigan death certificate-age at death per death certificate would calc to 26 Mar 1862

Buried:
Pine Ridge Cemetery

George married Harriet Emily Schultz on 12 Sep 1889 in Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA. Harriet (daughter of Joseph Oscar Schultz and Sarah Rebecca Phelps) was born on 26 Mar 1872 in Fairgrove, Tuscola, Michigan, USA; died on 11 Jul 1934 in Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA; was buried on 14 Jul 1934 in Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Clarence George Seeley was born on 29 Aug 1890 in Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA; died on 25 Jun 1980 in Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA; was buried on 27 Jun 1980 in Bay, Michigan, USA.
2. Florence Seeley was born on 17 Jun 1892 in Frankenlust, Bay, Michigan, USA; died in Jul 1967.
3. Harry Harold Seeley was born on 31 Mar 1894 in Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA; died on 13 Jun 1991 in Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA.
4. Hazel Seeley was born on 17 Feb 1896 in Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA; died on 5 Sep 1990 in Flushing, Genesee, Michigan, USA.
5. Mabel Fern Seeley was born on 3 Aug 1898 in Frankenlust, Bay, Michigan, USA; died on 15 May 1943 in Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA; was buried in May 1943 in Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA.
6. George Andrew Seeley was born on 16 Feb 1902 in Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA; died on 20 Oct 1951 in Ann Arbor, Washtenaw, Michigan, USA.

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• Race: White
• Name: George Seeley
• Reference Number: 5894
• Residence: South Bay City
• Residence: South Bay City
• Birth: Abt 1826, Hesse-Darmstadt, Hesse, Germany
• Birth: 1826, Germany
• Birth: Oct 1826, Germany
• Birth: Abt 1827, Prussia, Hesse, Germany
• Birth: Abt 1828, Hesse-Kassel, Hesse, Germany
• Birth: 14 Oct 1832, Germany
• Residence: 1860, Detroit, Wayne, Michigan, USA; Ward 10
• Residence: 1862, Detroit, Wayne, Michigan, USA
• _MILT: 4 Aug 1862, Detroit, Wayne, Michigan, USA
• _MILT: Between 4 Aug 1862 and 14 Nov 1865; 24th Michigan Infantry
• Residence: 1870, Portsmouth, Bay, Michigan, USA
• City Directory: Between 1873 and 1905, Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA
• Residence: 1880, Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA
• Residence: 1894, Bay, Michigan, USA
• Residence: 1900, Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA
• Residence: 1902, Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA; Webster near 31st

Notes:

George was born about 1826. He passed away in 1905.

NAME: George Zulch-Spelled with an umlaut over the u is apparently the proper ancestral spelling of this German name.

BIRTH: Most likely 14 Oct 1826. Census records have his birth year 1826 to 1828. His death certificate and gravestone have month and day as Oct 14, but the year as 1832. Which is an obvious error. Born 14 Oct 1826 to a single mother, Anna Catharina Schuch. At age 3 1/2 his mother married Lorenz Zulch. The Evangelische Kirche Von Kurhessen_Waldeck archives note that when George Schuch was confirmed in 1841 his mother was then married to Lorenz Zulch. The archives furthur note that George along with his Uncle Ludwig Carl Schuch and Ludwig's family emigrated to America. An undated note on his church record, states that the priest knows that Lorenz Zulch was the father. The birth record and confirmation record in Germany use the Schuch surname. Apparently, in coming to this country he decided to use his fathers name.

BIRTHPLACE: The state of Hesse-Kassel, Germany based on census records. Information had come forward previously that he was born in Raboldshausen, (which is in Hesse-Kassel) Germany. However, there is reason to question that. According to information obtained from Gene Roeder in 2006, Georg Zülch was born 14 Oct 1826 in Raboldshausen, Hesse-Kassel. The son of Lorenz Zülch and Anna Catharina Schuch. (from church records in Raboldshausen per Gene Roeder). However a search of actual church records in Raboldshausen reveals that on that date Anna Catharina Schuch, a single woman, had an illegitimate child, George Schuch. Those same church records show that three and one half years later Anna Catharina Schuch married Lorenz Zulch. The presumption must have been that George Schuch took Lorenz's family name and then later emigrated to the United States as George Zulch.

However, there is very strong evidence that George Schuch of Raboldshausen emigrated to Ohio using his own name, showing that George Schuch and George Zulch are two different people. It is even noted in Raboldhausen records that George Schuch, along with his Uncle Ludwig and Ludwig's family emigrated together to America. George, Ludwig and family ended up in Cincinnati, Ohio. There is evidence that these Cincinnati families are the ones mentioned in the Raboldshausen records. We have no corroborating evidence that our George Zulch came from Raboldhausen. The fact that there is a George Schuch whose mother married a Zulch in Raboldhausen could be nothing more than a coincidence.

The Cincinnati family was involved in testifying in the divorce case of the Cincinnati George Schuch and his wife. The daughter of Ludwig, whose name is Elizabeth Springer testified that George Schuch was her half-brother. George Schuch of Bay City would be her first cousin. It is possible that Ludwig had a child with another woman than Elizabeth's mother and that person is the Cincinnati George Schuch. Whereas, then George Zulch would be the Nephew mentioned in the Raboldhausen records.

I reviewed Raboldhausen birth and confirmation records online on archion.de. I was unable to find a record for another George Schuch.

We have at least 8 autosomal DNA matches to descendants of Johann Georg Schuch, who would be Georg Zulch's grandfather if he is the son of Anna Catharina Schuch. Two of those matches are to descendants of George Schuch of Ohio. So apparently both George's are closely related to each other and most likely both came from Raboldshausen. The fact that George Zulch's death record had a birth date of October 14th, although the wrong year (his daughter who reported, presumably knew his birthday but was confused on the actual year of birth) gives support to the theory that George Zulch was actually born Georg Schuch and the other Georg Schuch was someone else who is also connected with the same family. Very confusing.

In 1866 Hesse-Kassel was annexed to and became a part of Prussia. Today Raboldshausen (50.9166667° North, 9.5333333° East) is a part of the German state of Hesse.

DATE OF IMIGRATION: Unknown

MILITARY: On 4 Aug 1862 George Zulch of Detroit joined the 24th Michigan Infantry at Fort Wayne, Detroit, Michigan.

On 1 Jul 1863 George Zulch was present when Confederate forces attacked Union forces at Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. George Zulch's military records show that after the first day of the three day battle of Gettysburg, he was reported as killed in action. Fortunately for George and for his descendants, he was found 16 days later in a hospital in Little York, Pennsylvania with grievous, but not fatal, wounds. He was admitted into the hospital under the name of George Celce?. The army changed his status to Wounded In Action.

He was released from the hospital on 24 Dec 1863, whereupon he was assigned to the Veterans Reserve Corps (VRC). The VRC is a place for combat unfit soldiers where they are assigned light duty. For example, guarding prisoners or public buildings, honor guard duty or anything they can do to free up able bodied men for the fighting. He was released from the service 14 Nov 1865 and returned home to 416 W Fort St, Detroit, Michigan.

His wounds included a rifle ball (bullet) which went completely through his right ankle. Another rifle ball entered his left upper thigh and exited his left buttocks shattering his hip. He also had a forehead wound which was not serious enough to warrant anything on his disability pension, although he complained of severe, continuous headaches later in life.

MARRIAGE: George Zulch married Christina Amalia Theresia Thuemler (b. 1834-1835 in Saxony) abt. 1855 (date based on the birth of their first child). We assume they were married in the United States, based on the fact that they were from geographically different parts of Germany. On one census entry, their first born child lists her birth state as Maryland, although she lists Michigan on other census records. Also, her parents listed her birth state as Michigan on the 1860 census while they lived in Detroit. Therefore we say that it is possible that they both immigrated to the United States by 1855, at some point lived in Maryland and by 1860 had moved to Michigan. She died 16 Oct 1889. She took extremely ill while cooking dinner and died shortly after the doctor arrived at her house on Webster St. She is buried at Pine Ridge in Bay City.

He married second to Jane (Janette) Chapman (b. 1832 in Ireland) on 9 Jul 1890. The name George Zulch was used on the marriage certificate. When Jane Chapman died on 2 Jun 1898 the death certificate listed her name as Mrs. George Seeley. They had no children together.

RESIDENCE:

Born 1826 in Hesse-Kassel
By 1856 living in Michigan (first child)
By 1860 living in Detroit (census)
By 1870 living in Bay CIty area (census)
1905 died in Bay City

NAME CHANGE: By 1880 George and his family had become Americanized. He, his wife and children appeared on the 1880 census with the last name of Seeley. Most documents after that used the name Seeley with some exceptions. His pension still came to George Zulch at 912 Webster St, Bay City. Although for most (but not all) years the Bay City city directory showed George Seeley living at that address. His children always appeared thereafter as Seeley.

DEATH: George Zulch died 11 Oct 1905. His death certificate and the cemetery records both show the Seeley name. He is buried in Elm Lawn in Bay City with his second wife. However he does not have a gravestone. The burial itself was paid for by the County.

. CHILDREN:

Mary Zulch b.12 Feb 1856 Michigan m. James West Bowyer 18 Dec 1874 d. 13 May 1897 Bay City
Minnie Seeley b. 26 Apr 1861 Michigan m. Daniel H Shawl abt 1878 d. 22 Mar 1903 Bay City
George Seeley b. 26 Mar 1863 Michigan m. Harriet #Emily Schultz 12 Sep 1889 d. 6 Apr 1904
Edward Zulch b. 1868 Michigan d. bef 1880
William Seeley b. 19 Feb 1871 Bay City d. 24 Nov 1894 Bay City
Lewis Seeley b. 26 Sep 1873 Bay City d. 4 Apr 1909 Bay City
Herbert Henry Seeley b. 23 Sep 1877 Bay City m. Cecelia Longton 2 Apr 1901 m. Lorinda Hoyt 14 Jun 1909 m. Dora Monahan 17 Mar 1916 d.15 dec 1957 Bay City
Emma Bessie Seeley b. 1879 Bay City m. Charles Fredrick Storrs 7 May 1903 d. 27 Jun 1937

Birth:
calc backward from dod

Buried:
Elm Lawn Cemetery

Died:
Age: 72

George married Christina Amalia Theresia Thuemler about 1855 in USA. Christina was born on 24 Oct 1834 in Sachsen, Germany; died on 16 Oct 1889 in Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA; was buried after 16 Oct 1889 in Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: Amelia Dimbere
• Name: Amelia Seeley
• Name: Amelia Zulch
• Name: Mary Zulch
• Name: Tressa Truebler
• Reference Number: 6200
• Birth: 1834, Sachsen, Germany
• Birth: 1835, Sachsen, Germany
• Residence: 1860, Detroit, Wayne, Michigan, USA
• Residence: 1870, Portsmouth, Bay, Michigan, USA
• Residence: 1880, Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA

Notes:

BIRTH: 1834-1835 in Saxony per census records. 24 Oct 1834 by calculating birth date from age of 54 yrs 11 mos 22 days on death certificate.

NAME: have seen references as Mary, Amelia and Tressa. From a child's baptism record in a German Language Church in Detroit her full name is Christina Amalia Theresia Thümler.
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PARENTS: Unknown

DATE OF IMIGRATION: Unknown

MARRIAGE: By 1856 when she had the first of 9 children. Place of marriage unknown.

RESIDENCE:
Born 1834-1835 in Saxony
By 1856 living in Michigan (first child)
By 1860 living in Detroit (census)
By 1870 living in Bay CIty area (census)
1889 died in Bay City

DEATH: 16 Oct 1889 in Bay City, Michigan. She took extremely ill while cooking dinner and died shortly after the doctor arrived at her house on Webster St. She is buried at Pine Ridge in Bay City.


Birth:
calc backwards from dod

Buried:
Pine Ridge, Bay City

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Married:
based on date of first child

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• Reference Number: 4091

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This person, his spouse and all ancestors are based on the following message board post and are not yet verified:

I am also descended from the Raboldshausen Zulch`s. I wrote to the minister of the local church and he sent me a great deal of information about our family. The earliest member was Johann Hermann who had a son Johann Lorenz (he married Anna Catharina Reismann in 1753. They had 9 children, Johann Hermann Friedrich, Johanna Margaretha, Johann Justus, Martha Elisabeth, Johann Herrmann, Anna Catharina, Catharina Christina, Johann Herrmann and Anna Margretha.

The eighth child, Johann Herrmann was married twice and had 10 children. His first wife was Anna Catharina Baumart and his second was Barbara Christina Heusner. The children were: Lorenz Friedrich (your ancestor), Johanna Margretha, Martha Elisabeth, Catharina Elisabeth, Jacob Zulch, Anna Katharina (my great great grandmother), Christina Zulch, Johann Ernst, Frederich, and Anna Catharina.

Lorenz Friedrich married Anna Catherina Schultz and they had 3 children: Georg, Friederich, and Catharina Elisabeth. I don`t have any information about Georg other than his birthday, 10-14-1826. His brother Friederich had 10 children, and all I have about Catharina Elisabeth is her birthday, 5-15-1845.

All of my information is from church records in Raboldshausen.......which I would be happy to share with you. I sounds like you have additional information that I don`t have, so we will both benefit.

Lorenz married Anna Catherina Schuch on 12 Apr 1830. Anna (daughter of Johann Georg Schuch and Anna Elisabeth Blumenstiel) was born on 22 Nov 1802 in Raboldshausen, Hersfeld-Rotenburg, Hessen, Germany; died on 10 Dec 1871 in Raboldshausen, Hersfeld-Rotenburg, Hessen, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 4096

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• Reference Number: 4045

Johann married Anna Catharina Baumgart. Anna was born about 1773; died on 5 Mar 1810. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 2100

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Birth:
based on spouse's birth date

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• Reference Number: 4071

Johann married Anna Elisabeth Blumenstiel on 22 Oct 1797 in Raboldshausen, Hersfeld-Rotenburg, Hessen, Germany. Anna (daughter of Johann Justus Blumenstiel and Catharina Elisabeth Kranz) was born on 8 Mar 1780 in Raboldshausen, Hersfeld-Rotenburg, Hessen, Germany; died on 8 Jan 1835 in Raboldshausen, Hersfeld-Rotenburg, Hessen, Germany. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 4073