Johann Peter Engelmann

1849 - 1913  (63 years)

• Name	Johann Peter Engelmann
  Birth	1849	Kukkus, Samara, Russia   [1, 2]
  Birth	5 Dec 1849	Kukkus, Samara, Russia   [3]
  Gender	Male
  Name	Johann Peter Edelmann  [2]
  Name	Peter Engelmann  [1]
  Residence	1850	Kukkus, Samara, Russia   [2]
  	HH50
  Residence	1857	Kukkus, Samara, Russia   [1]
  	HH59
  Death	10 Nov 1913	Rocky Ford, Otero, Colorado, USA   [3]
  Person ID	I26450	FelsingFam
  Last Modified	21 Dec 2024

  
  

  Father	Johann Gottfried Engelmann,   b. 1821, Kukkus, Samara, Russia
  Relationship	natural
  Mother	Anna Katharina Gerlach,   b. 1823
  Relationship	natural
  Family ID	F8410	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family 1	Anna Schneider,   b. Abt 1849   d. Bef 1891, Kukkus, Samara, Russia (Age ~ 41 years)
  Family ID	F8404	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	21 Dec 2024

  
  

  Family 2	Marie Katherine Schneider,   b. 31 Oct 1854, Kukkus, Samara, Russia d. 17 Feb 1943, Fresno, Fresno, California, USA (Age 88 years)
  Children	+ 1. Philipp H Engelmann,   b. 23 Jul 1891, Kukkus, Samara, Russia d. 21 Jul 1946, Fresno, Fresno, California, USA (Age 54 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
  Family ID	F8409	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	21 Dec 2024

  
  

• Event Map

  Birth - 1849 - Kukkus, Samara, Russia Birth - 5 Dec 1849 - Kukkus, Samara, Russia Residence - HH50 - 1850 - Kukkus, Samara, Russia Residence - HH59 - 1857 - Kukkus, Samara, Russia Death - 10 Nov 1913 - Rocky Ford, Otero, Colorado, USA  = Link to Google Earth

  
  

• Notes

  I found out that my husband's grandfather, Heinrich was born in Kukkus from his death certificate 4 Oct 1930 and the funeral director. Then I found out a mystery that kept me wondering for a while. I know that he came with his wife and some of her sisters and bro-in-laws from Russia in 1900. Then on Jerry's grandfather's obit in 1930 it said that the body was being held pending the arrival of his mother (step-mother) and two step-brothers and two step-sisters from Fresno, CA. Hmmmm, I had to crack this mystery. I eventually found that his (my husband, Jerry's) great-grandfather had remarried and brought his 2nd wife and family from Kukkus in 1901. They made a brief stop in the Dolton/Lansing, Cook Co., IL. area where Heinrich and family resided and then moved on to Rocky Ford, Otero Co., Colorado to set up house. The great-grandfather's name was Peter Engelmann or Johann Peter who died in Colorado 10 Nov 1913. His death certificate gave me the name of his father, Johann Gottfried Engelmann and his mother's first name was unreadable, but the last letters were tall letters and her last name was Gerlach. From the 1834 Census of Kukkus the only Gerlach sister that would fit the first name would've been Katharina Margaretha Gerlach. That is not a proven, but a strong speculation on my part. I have found a Katharina Margaretha Gerlach married to someone else, but it could've been a second marriage.--Sharon Dickson-Engelman

  
  

• Sources

  [S14] Translated by Olga Becker Batzel (Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany) and Nelli Batzel (Saxonia, Germany), 1857 Census Kukkus, Russia, (Name: Self; Date: 2008;), As of 25 Oct 1857. [S16] Translated by Brent Mai, Concordia University, Portland, Oregon, 1850 Census Kukkus, Russia, (Name: Dynasty Publishing; Location: 20303 SW Tremont Way, Beaverton, OR 97007; Date: 2012;), As of 1 July 1850. [S1] Genealogical Information, Provided by Sharon Dickson-Engelman. I found out that my husband's grandfather, Heinrich was born in Kukkus from his death certificate 4 Oct 1930 and the funeral director. Then I found out a mystery that kept me wondering for a while. I know that he came with his wife and some of her sisters and bro-in-laws from Russia in 1900. Then on Jerry's grandfather's obit in 1930 it said that the body was being held pending the arrival of his mother (step-mother) and two step-brothers and two step-sisters from Fresno, CA. Hmmmm, I had to crack this mystery. I eventually found that his (my husband, Jerry's) great-grandfather had remarried and brought his 2nd wife and family from Kukkus in 1901. They made a brief stop in the Dolton/Lansing, Cook Co., IL. area where Heinrich and family resided and then moved on to Rocky Ford, Otero Co., Colorado to set up house. The great-grandfather's name was Peter Engelmann or Johann Peter who died in Colorado 10 Nov 1913. His death certificate gave me the name of his father, Johann Gottfried Engelmann and his mother's first name was unreadable, but the last letters were tall letters and her last name was Gerlach. From the 1834 Census of Kukkus the only Gerlach sister that would fit the first name would've been Katharina Margaretha Gerlach. That is not a proven, but a strong speculation on my part. I have found a Katharina Margaretha Gerlach married to someone else, but it could've been a second marriage.--Sharon Dickson-Engelman