1787 - 1871 (83 years)
Set As Default Person
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Name |
Norman Phelps [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6] |
Suffix |
Jr |
Birth |
1787 |
Vermont, USA [3] |
Born |
9 Nov 1787 |
Vermont, USA [7] |
Gender |
Male |
Birth |
1788 |
Connecticut, USA [1] |
Birth |
1788 |
New York, USA [2] |
Birth |
Nov 1788 |
Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA |
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Birth |
1789 |
Massachusetts, USA [8] |
Birth |
Abt 1789 [9] |
Birth |
1805 |
New York, USA [10] |
Name |
Harman Phelps [9] |
Name |
Norman Phelps Jr Jr [11] |
Name |
Norman Phelps Senr [12] |
Residence |
1810 [13] |
Queensbury, Washington, New York |
_MILT |
1814 |
New York, USA |
23rd Regiment, New York Militia |
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phelps norman jr war of 1812 https://www.fold3.com/image/309389080?terms=norman%20phelps |
_MILT |
12 Sep 1814 |
New York, USA [6] |
Residence |
1820 |
Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA [12] |
Residence |
1825 |
Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA [14] |
Residence |
1830 |
Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA [15] |
Residence |
1835 |
Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA [16] |
Residence |
1 Jun 1840 |
Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA [4] |
Residence |
1850 |
Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA [2] |
Residence |
1855 |
Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA [9] |
Age: 66; Relation to Head of House: Head |
Residence |
1860 |
Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA [3] |
Residence |
1865 |
Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA [17] |
Residence |
1870 |
Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA [1] |
Died |
19 May 1871 |
Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA [18] |
Buried |
Aft 19 May 1871 |
Warren, New York, USA [18] |
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Probate |
1878 |
Washington, New York, USA |
Release of Real Estate by heirs |
Reference Number |
6396 |
Siblings |
8 Siblings |
+ | 1. Sally Phelps, b. 31 Jul 1785, Hebron, Tolland, Connecticut, USA , d. 17 Feb 1879 (Age 93 years) ▻ David Irish, m. 1805 | | 2. Grace Phelps, b. 1786, d. Iowa, USA ▻ Samuel Delavergne | + | 3. Norman Phelps, Jr, b. 9 Nov 1787, Vermont, USA , d. 19 May 1871, Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA (Age 83 years) ▻ Minerva Burdick, m. Abt 1842 ; Thankful Chase, m. 1809 ; Hannah Chase, m. 1810 | + | 4. Amasa Phelps, b. 1790, d. Wisconsin, USA ▻ Electa Harris, m. 1821 ; Lydia Edwards | + | 5. Alpheus Phelps, b. 5 Apr 1795, Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA , d. 13 Jun 1860, Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA (Age 65 years) ▻ Martella Jenkins | + | 6. John Phelps, b. 11 Mar 1800, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA , d. 9 Apr 1892, East Lake George, Warren, New York, USA (Age 92 years) ▻ Francis Bentley | + | 7. Samuel Henry Phelps, b. 1802, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA , d. 7 Feb 1864, Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA (Age 62 years) ▻ Rebecca Maxfield | + | 8. Mary Phelps, b. 11 Mar 1805, Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA , d. 5 Feb 1855, Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA (Age 49 years) ▻ Asa W Brayton | + | 9. Benjamin Phelps, b. 26 Mar 1809, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA , d. 29 Jul 1869, Groveland, Oakland, Michigan, USA (Age 60 years) ▻ Angelina Orton | |
Person ID |
I6396 |
FelsingFam |
Last Modified |
16 Feb 2024 |
Father |
Norman Phelps, b. 8 Nov 1763, Hebron, Tolland, Connecticut, USA , d. 18 Sep 1840, Ortonville, Oakland, Michigan, USA (Age 76 years) |
Relationship |
natural |
Mother |
Sarah Cole, b. 4 Feb 1765, Lebanon, New London, Connecticut, USA , d. 11 Sep 1840, Ortonville, Oakland, Michigan, USA (Age 75 years) |
Relationship |
natural |
Married |
23 Nov 1784 |
Hebron, Tolland, Connecticut, USA [19] |
Family ID |
F1684 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Family 1 |
Minerva Burdick, b. 1803, Warren, New York, USA , d. 27 Sep 1878, Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA (Age 75 years) |
Married |
Abt 1842 [8] |
- implied from info on 1855 ny state census. 2 known children.
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Children |
+ | 1. Andrew James Phelps, b. 9 Dec 1842, Warren, New York, USA , d. 5 Oct 1923, Washington, New York, USA (Age 80 years) [natural] |
+ | 2. Sarah Rebecca Phelps, b. Apr 1845, New York, USA , d. 5 Apr 1932, Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA (Age ~ 86 years) [natural] |
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Last Modified |
16 Feb 2024 |
Family ID |
F1779 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Family 2 |
Thankful Chase, b. 11 Feb 1791, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA , d. 1860, Novi, Oakland, Michigan, USA (Age 68 years) |
Married |
1809 [20] |
- no source for date, would have been 1st marriage. No children.
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Last Modified |
16 Feb 2024 |
Family ID |
F1780 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Family 3 |
Hannah Chase, b. 5 Mar 1785, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA , d. 1834 (Age 48 years) |
Married |
1810 [21] |
- no source for date, would have been 2nd marriage. 6 known children
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Children |
+ | 1. Evelina Phelps, b. 1813, New York, USA , d. Aft 1880 (Age > 68 years) [natural] |
+ | 2. Reuben Gibson Phelps, b. Between 1814 and 1815, New York, USA , d. 15 Jul 1879, Burton, Genesee, Michigan, USA (Age ~ 65 years) [natural] |
+ | 3. Samuel Stiles Phelps, b. 16 Dec 1816, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA , d. 17 Sep 1893, Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA (Age 76 years) [natural] |
| 4. Asa Phelps, b. 1818, d. UNKNOWN [natural] |
| 5. Gilbert Phelps, b. 1820, d. UNKNOWN [natural] |
+ | 6. Sylvia Ann Phelps, b. 24 Jul 1825, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA , d. 26 Aug 1869, Bolton, Warren, New York, USA (Age 44 years) [natural] |
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Last Modified |
16 Feb 2024 |
Family ID |
F1781 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
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Event Map |
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| Birth - 1787 - Vermont, USA |
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| Born - 9 Nov 1787 - Vermont, USA |
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| Birth - 1788 - Connecticut, USA |
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| Birth - 1788 - New York, USA |
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| Birth - Nov 1788 - Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA |
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| Birth - 1789 - Massachusetts, USA |
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| Birth - 1805 - New York, USA |
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| _MILT - 23rd Regiment, New York Militia - 1814 - New York, USA |
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| _MILT - 12 Sep 1814 - New York, USA |
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| Residence - 1820 - Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA |
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| Residence - 1825 - Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA |
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| Residence - 1830 - Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA |
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| Residence - 1835 - Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA |
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| Residence - 1 Jun 1840 - Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA |
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| Residence - 1850 - Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA |
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| Residence - Age: 66; Relation to Head of House: Head - 1855 - Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA |
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| Residence - 1860 - Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA |
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| Residence - 1865 - Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA |
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| Residence - 1870 - Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA |
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| Died - 19 May 1871 - Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA |
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| Buried - Aft 19 May 1871 - Warren, New York, USA |
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| Probate - Release of Real Estate by heirs - 1878 - Washington, New York, USA |
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Photos
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| 1870 United States Federal Census Database online. Year: 1870; Census Place: Queensbury, Warren, New York; Roll: M593_1109; Page: 668; Image: 296. |
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| nphelpsseelyecemetery
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| 1860 United States Federal Census Database online. Fort Ann, Washington, New York, post office Sandy Hill, roll M653_875, page 0, image 358. |
| New York, State Census, 1855
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| phelps fam findagrave.com Seelye Cemetery Queensbury Warren County New York |
| 1825 Fort Ann, Washington, New York Census 3 Date:5/26/2013 1:00:30 PM |
| 1825 Fort Ann, Washington, New York Census 4 Date:5/26/2013 1:00:30 PM |
| 1825 Fort Ann, Washington, New York Census 5 Date:5/26/2013 1:00:30 PM |
| 1825 Fort Ann, Washington, New York Census 1 Date:5/26/2013 1:00:30 PM |
| 1825 Fort Ann, Washington, New York Census 2 Date:5/26/2013 1:00:30 PM |
| 1835 Fort Ann, Washington - Irish & Phelps pg 4 Date:5/26/2013 12:59:16 PM |
| 1835 Fort Ann, Washington - Irish & Phelps pg 3 Date:5/26/2013 12:59:16 PM |
| 1835 Fort Ann, Washington - Irish & Phelps pg 2 Date:5/26/2013 12:59:16 PM |
| 1835 Fort Ann, Washington - Irish & Phelps pg 1 Date:5/26/2013 12:59:16 PM |
| 1810 United States Federal Census Database online. Queensbury, Washington, New York, roll 30, page 364, image 298.00. |
| 1820 United States Federal Census Database online. Fort Ann, Washington, New York, roll M33_76, page 149, image 269. |
| 1830 United States Federal Census Database online. Fort Ann, Washington, New York, roll 111, page 320, image 629. |
| 1840 United States Federal Census Database online. , Washington, New York, roll 348, page 240. |
| New York, War of 1812 Payroll Abstracts for New York State Militia, 1812-1815
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| phelps norman jr war of 1812 https://www.fold3.com/image/309389080?terms=norman%20phelps |
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| Norman Phelps Seelye Cemetery, Warren County, New York |
| New York, Index of Awards On Claims of the Soldiers of the War of 1812 - Norman Phelps Jr Date:12/18/2017 15:27:32 |
| phelps homestead Photo from the Chapman Historical Museum in Glens Falls, New York: Catalog Number 1977.132.0022a Title Old Phelps Homestead Description View of the Phelps Homestead at Phelps Point (now Pilot Knob) on Lake George. Collection General Photograph Collection Object Name Print, Photographic Lexicon sub-category Documentary Artifact Date… |
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Notes |
- NORMAN PHELPS JR
Norman Phelps Jr was born in the vicinity of Bradford, Vermont on 9 Nov 1787. We arrived at this conclusion after analyzing much confusing and conflicting information. The phelpsinc.com website shows Fort Ann, New York in Nov 1788. Norman Phelps himself had listed 4 different States of birth on 4 different census records; New York (1850), Massachusetts (1855), Vermont (1860) and Connecticut (1870)!! This confusion is apparently from his father Norman Phelps, Sr having moved around considerably during the few years before and after Norman's birth. This movement is logged in Norman Sr's military pension file. Approximate dates are given for each move in terms of number of years after the war. It is very approximate. Apparently Norman was aware of the movement, but was himself confused as to which State his father was actually living when Norman Jr was born. The only documentation we have is a log entry by Mrs. Lydia Phelps Baldwin of Bradford, Vermont who logged every birth she attended over a 52 year span, over 500 names (New England Historical & Genealogical Register 1950 Vol 104 P263). She recorded the birth of a son to Norman Phelps on 9 Nov 1787. Unfortunately she did not record the spouses name or the sons name, so we can not be certain that this is the same person. However Norman Sr did not have any sons other than Norman in this time period. Mrs Baldwin was a first cousin to Norman Sr and a review of her log entries shows that she also assisted in delivery of Dewey and Horsford children who were related to Norman Sr's mother, Desire Dewey. Norman Jr's grave stone shows died 19 May 1871 age 83 & 6 mos, which is Nov 1787. Considering that his father's pension record shows that he was in Vermont in that approximate time period and that the midwife keeping the log was his fathers close relative, then this birth date and place becomes quite plausible.
According to the 1790 Federal Census Norman was living in Kingsbury. According to his fathers pension file, they lived in Kingsbury for a total of 3 years then moved to Fort Ann where Norman Jr lived until sometime prior to 1870 when he moved to Queensbury, New York.
The records for the War of 1812 show Norman Phelps Jr as a private in the 23rd Regiment (Cook's) of the New York Militia.
He died 19 May 1871 in (Queensbury) Warren County, New York. He is buried in Seelye Cemetery in Warren County, New York.
He married first in 1809 to Thankful Chase. Thankful Chase is the daughter of Caleb Chase and Hannah Ellison. She was born on 11 Feb 1791 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA. Her death 1860 in Novi, Oakland, Michigan, USA (after summer 1860). They had no children.
He married second in 1810 to her sister Hannah Chase. She was born on 05 Mar 1785 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA. She died 1834.
Children of Norman Phelps Jr and Hannah Chase:
1. Evalina Phelps. Born abt 1813. Married first William Brown with whom she had 7 children. Married 2nd Solomon Dickinson in 1853.
2. Reuben Gibson Phelps. He was born Bet. 1814-1815 in New York, New York, USA. He died on 15 Jul 1879 in Burton, Genesee, Michigan, USA.
3. Samuel Stiles Phelps. He was born on 16 Dec 1816 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA. He married Catherine Dempsey. They were married 1850. He died on 17 Sep 1893 in Town Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA.
4. Asa Phelps. He was born 1818. Probably died young.
5. Gilbert Phelps. He was born 1820. Probably died young.
6. Sylvia Ann Phelps. She was born on 24 Jul 1825 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA. She married Elbridge Gerry Cilley. They were married on 10 Jan 1843 in Warren, New York, USA. She died on 26 Aug 1869 in Bolton, Warren, New York, USA.
He married for third time to Minerva Burdick in approx. 1843. He was Minerva's second husband (Fredrick Plum being her first).
Minerva had a child with Fredrick Plum:
1) Martha Minerva Plum. She was born on 30 Oct 1838. She married Justin Merrill. Their marriage Bef. 1855 (not in mother's household 1855 census). She died on 15 Oct 1911 in Bolton, Warren, New York, USA. (Her death certificate shows Fredrick Plum and Minerva Burdick as parents).
Children of Norman Phelps Jr and Minerva Burdick:
1. Andrew James Phelps. His birth on 09 Dec 1843 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA. He died on 05 Oct 1923 in Washington, New York, USA.
2. Sarah Rebecca Phelps. Her birth Apr 1845 in New York, USA (based on all avail evidence). She married Joseph Oscar Shultz. They were married on 15 Dec 1861 in Fairgrove, Tuscola, Michigan, USA. She died on 05 Apr 1932 in Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA.
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Sources |
- [S4] 1870 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2009;), Database online. Queensbury, Warren, New York, post office Luzerne, roll 1109, page 668, image 296.
Record for Norman Phelps
- [S260] 1850 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2005;), Database online. Fort Ann, Washington, New York, roll M432_610, page 87, image 443.
Record for Andrew Phelps
- [S6] 1860 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2009;), Database online. Fort Ann, Washington, New York, post office Sandy Hill, roll M653_875, page 0, image 358.
Record for Minerva Phelps
- [S360] 1840 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;), Database online. , Washington, New York, roll 348, page 240.
Record for Reuben Gibson Phelps and Norman Phelps Jr
- [S656] New York, Military Equipment Claims, War of 1812, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 1999;).
Record for Norman Phelps
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=3883&h=11673&indiv=try
- [S657] New York, War of 1812 Payroll Abstracts for New York State Militia, 1812-1815, Ancestry.com, (Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2013;).
Record for Norman Jr Phelps
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=5370&h=8413&indiv=try
- [S12] New England Historical & Genealogical Register, 1950 Vol104 P263.
- [S71] 1855 New York State Census, Phelps, Norman Jr.
Name/age/sex/relation to head of household/county of birth if New York(state of birth, if not NY)/occupation/years in this city:
Fort Ann
dated 14 Jun 1855
Norman Phelps/66/M/head/Massachusetts/62/farmer
Manervy Phelps/54/F/wife/Warren County/13/domestic
James A Phelps/12/M/child/Washington/12
Sarah R Phelps/10/F/child/Washington/10
- [S329] New York, State Census, 1855, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2013;).
Name/age/sex/relation to head of household/county of birth if New York(state of birth, if not NY)/occupation/years in this city:
Fort Ann
dated 14 Jun 1855
Norman Phelps/66/M/head/Massachusetts/62/farmer
Manervy Phelps/54/F/wife/Warren County/13/domestic
James A Phelps/12/M/child/Washington/12
Sarah R Phelps/10/F/child/Washington/10
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=general-7181&h=1654655650&indiv=try
- [S4] 1870 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2009;), Database online. Year: 1870; Census Place: Queensbury, Warren, New York; Roll: M593_1109; Page: 668; Image: 296.
Record for Eveline Dickerson
- [S655] U.S., War of 1812 Service Records, 1812-1815, Direct Data Capture, comp, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 1999;), Database online.
Record for Norman Phelps Jr
- [S431] 1820 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;), Database online. Fort Ann, Washington, New York, roll M33_76, page 149, image 269.
Record for Norman Phelps Senr
- [S586] 1810 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;), Database online. Queensbury, Washington, New York, roll 30, page 364, image 298.00.
Record for Norman Phelps
- [S583] 1825 Washington County, New York Census, Washington County (New York). County Clerk (Main Author), (Name: Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah; Location: Salt Lake City, Utah; Date: 1967;).
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1825 Fort Ann, Washington, New York Census 3 Date:5/26/2013 1:00:30 PM |
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1825 Fort Ann, Washington, New York Census 4 Date:5/26/2013 1:00:30 PM |
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1825 Fort Ann, Washington, New York Census 5 Date:5/26/2013 1:00:30 PM |
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1825 Fort Ann, Washington, New York Census 1 Date:5/26/2013 1:00:30 PM |
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1825 Fort Ann, Washington, New York Census 2 Date:5/26/2013 1:00:30 PM |
- [S506] 1830 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;), Database online. Fort Ann, Washington, New York, roll 111, page 320, image 629.
Record for Norman Phelps
- [S494] 1835 Census Washington County, New York, Washington County (New York). County Clerk (Main Author), (Name: Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah; Location: Salt Lake City, Utah; Date: 1967;).
- [S72] 1865 New York Census, Washington County/Fort Ann/ED 3/Page6.
Name/age/sex/relation/birthplace/3 of children/how many times married
Norman Phelps/78/m/head/b. Conn/ /marr 3x
Menerva Phelps/63/f/ /b. Warren County/10 children/marr 2x
James A Phelps/21/M/child/b. Washington County
(we believe that the 10 children refers to Norman, not to Minerva)
- [S96] Cemetery Records, http://www.rootsweb.com:80/~nywarren/cemeteries/seelye.htm---go to page 4.
- [S15] Barbour Collection, Hebron, Tolland, Connecticut Vital Records.
- [S502] Seven generations of the descendants of Aquila and Thomas Chase, Ancestry.com, (Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT; Date: 2005;), p. 163 Thankful (Dau of Caleb Chase) b. 11 Feb 1793 m. Norman Phelps. No children. (No date of marriage is given).
- [S502] Seven generations of the descendants of Aquila and Thomas Chase, Ancestry.com, (Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT; Date: 2005;), p. 163 Hannah (Dau of Caleb Chase) b. 5 Mar 1785 m. Norman Phelps (no date given).
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