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Sir Walter Forrester

Sir Walter Forrester

Male Abt 1460 - 1528  (~ 67 years)

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Sir Walter ForresterSir Walter Forrester was born about 1460 in Scotland; died between Feb 1526/27 and May 1528 in Scotland.

    Other Events:

    • Reference Number: 9785

    Notes:

    From https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Forrester-368
    "Sir Walter Forrester of Torwood, is styled heir apparent to Duncan Forrester of Torwood when both were witnesses to a charter by Michael Strathenry of Gibliston granting the lands of Gibliston to his daughter, Mariote, on 24 September 1493, and as filio et heredi apparenti to Duncan Forrester of Skypnch he had a charter under the Great Seal on his father’s resignation for the lands and barony of Garden with the turret, fortalice and manor, the lands and barony of Torwood and Torwoodhead with the office of forester of Torwood, and also the lands and barony of Skipinch, with the castle, in the lordship of Knapdale, dated 26th November 1497."

    "Sir Walter was in the Council of Stirling, 1521.

    "He married first, Agnes Graham, sister to William, Earl of Montrose, by whom he had three sons and four daughters; and secondly, a daughter of Napier of Merchiston, by whom he had two sons.

    "Sir Walter had a charter in 1497 of Skypinch, Garden and Torwood, and the custody of the woods which Sir Duncan, his father, resigned, and in 1508 he had another charter, one of the witnesses being Thomas Forrester of Cranock. In the same year, Sir Walter received a payment for keeping the wood and mowing the hay of Torwood. On 15th May of this year (1508) James IV. Made his lands into the barony of Garden-Forrester. His Daughter, Marian or Mariote, who was living in 1506-10, was compelled to marry Sir Henry Shaw of Camsmore, “the King’s Great Provisor to the Queen,” and makes a payment to the Comptroller in 1508.

    "Sir Walter was succeeded by his eldest son, James."

    The above provided the following sources for the information:

    Stirling Burgh Records.
    Acts Parlt. Scot., Vol.IL , p 578.
    Thomas Forrester’s wife was Elizabeth Stewart (Elphinstone Writs).
    Exchequer Rolls.
    In the Exchequer Rolls he is called Sir Alexander Forrester of Garden.

    Family/Spouse: Agnes Graham. Agnes (daughter of William Graham and Helen Douglas) was born about 1468 in Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Sir James Forrester  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 17 Sep 1489 in Scotland; died between 1532 and 1536 in Scotland.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Sir James ForresterSir James Forrester Descendancy chart to this point (1.Walter1) was born on 17 Sep 1489 in Scotland; died between 1532 and 1536 in Scotland.

    Other Events:

    • Reference Number: 9783

    Notes:

    From https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Forrester-1421
    Sir James Forrester of Torwood and Garden, baptized Sunday,17 September 1489, for whom James IV stood sponsor, survived his father by less than a decade, dying between 7 October 1532 and 21 May 1536; married first say 1510 Elizabeth Erskine, born say 1492, died before 1 September 1532, say 1524, daughter of Robert, 4th Lord Erskine, de jure Earl of Mar, who was slain at the Battle of Flodden (1513), and Elizabeth/Isobel Campbell, who was alive 14 December 1518. Sir James married second, between 25 June 1518 and 1 September 1532, say 1525-26 Agnes Cockburn, daughter of John Cockburn of Ormiston and Margaret Crichton, and widow of William Murray of Touchadam. Sir James Forrester and Elizabeth Erskine had two sons and two daughters.

    Sources
    ↑ Adrian Benjamin Burke, The Livingston Ancestry of the Duncanson Sisters of New Netherland, Part II: Identifyng their maternal great-grandmother Margaret Forrester," in The Genealogist, 2013, pp. 179-80.

    Birth:
    baptism date

    James married Elizabeth Erskine about 1510. Elizabeth (daughter of 4th Lord Erskine, Earl of Mar Robert Erskine and Elizabeth Isobel Campbell) was born about 1492 in Scotland; died between 1532 and 1536. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 3. Margaret Forrester  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1518 and 1520 in Scotland; died after 22 Jan 1579/80.


Generation: 3

  1. 3.  Margaret ForresterMargaret Forrester Descendancy chart to this point (2.James2, 1.Walter1) was born between 1518 and 1520 in Scotland; died after 22 Jan 1579/80.

    Other Events:

    • Reference Number: 9782

    Notes:

    From https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Forrester-1420
    "Sir James Colville, 1st laird of East Wemyss, married seccond, by congract dated at Edinburgh 21 May 1536 Margaret Forrester, sister german of David Forrester of Garden, by whom he had a daughter Margaret Colville and a son Mr. Alexander Colville, Commendator of Culross.... After Sir James Colville's death in England, on 10 January 1540/1 his widow Margaret and eldest son and heir James received a summons to appear before Parliament. On 14 March 1540/1, Margaret and her step-son witnessed the sentence of forfeiture against her late husband read aloud--proclaiming him guilty of the crime of...high treason.... the forfeiture was rescinded by parliament on 12 December 1543 and on 17 March 1543/4 the Lords of Council restored Colville's estate."[1]

    "The precise date of Margaret Forrester's marriage to Henry Livingston of Falkirk has not been determined... In his Scots Peerage article, Wood cites a record registered 22 May 1550 of a dispute over a contract between Henry Livingston, here styled "in Falkirk," and Margaret Forrester, and Commendator William Colville, Sir James Colville, 2nd laird of East Wemyss, Robert Colville of Cleish, and others...."[2]

    "It seems that in his youth Mr. Henry Livingston [son of Henry Livingston and Margaret Forrester] was placed with his elder half-brother Mr. Alexander Colville. As an apprentice in Mr. Alexander's household, Henry would have learned reading, writing and social protocol. And apparently Henry helped his half-brother with family business.... And finally, on 26 July 1586, at Edinburgh, 'Mr. Henry Lewingston, brother of the Iconimus [emphasis added], witnessed a charter to John Kennedy of Pennyglen. The fact that Mr. Henry Livingston is described as the brother of Mr. Alexander Colville, Iconomus of Melrose, can only mean they were uterine brothers, i.e., their mother was Margaret Forrester, widow of Sir James Colville of East Wemyss. Robert Milne the younger's manuscript pedigree is thus proved correct: Sir James Colville's widow married Henry Livingston of Falkirk and was the mother of Mr. Henry Livingston, Minister of St. Ninian's.[3]

    Sources
    ↑ Adrian Benjamin Burke, The Livingston Ancestry of the Duncanson Sisters of New Netherland, Part II: Identifyng their maternal great-grandmother Margaret Forrester," in The Genealogist, 2013, pp. 165-67.
    ↑ Adrian Benjamin Burke, The Livingston Ancestry of the Duncanson Sisters of New Netherland, Part II: Identifyng their maternal great-grandmother Margaret Forrester," in The Genealogist, 2013, p. 167.
    ↑ Adrian Benjamin Burke, The Livingston Ancestry of the Duncanson Sisters of New Netherland, Part II: Identifyng their maternal great-grandmother Margaret Forrester," in The Genealogist, 2013, pp. 172-74.
    *Adrian Benjamin Burke, The Livingston Ancestry of the Duncanson Sisters of New Netherland, Part II: Identifyng their maternal great-grandmother Margaret Forrester," in The Genealogist, 2013, 162-181.

    Family/Spouse: Henry Livingston. Henry was born about 1495 in Scotland; died on 22 Jan 1579/80 in Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 4. Henry Livingston  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1560 in Scotland; died between 14 Jun and 26 Aug 1624.


Generation: 4

  1. 4.  Henry LivingstonHenry Livingston Descendancy chart to this point (3.Margaret3, 2.James2, 1.Walter1) was born about 1560 in Scotland; died between 14 Jun and 26 Aug 1624.

    Other Events:

    • Reference Number: 9779
    • _EMPLOY: 15 Oct 1587, St Ninians, Stirlingshire, Scotland; Minister of St. Ninians
    • _EMPLOY: 7 Apr 1607, Perth, Perthshire, Scotland; Moderator of the Synod of Perth

    Notes:

    From https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Livingston-187
    It seems that in his youth Mr. Henry Livingston [son of Henry Livingston and Margaret Forrester] was placed with his elder half-brother Mr. Alexander Colville. As an apprentice in Mr. Alexander's household, Henry would have learned reading, writing and social protocol. And apparently Henry helped his half-brother with family business.... And finally, on 26 July 1586, at Edinburgh, 'Mr. Henry Lewingston, brother of the Iconimus [emphasis added], witnessed a charter to John Kennedy of Pennyglen. The fact that Mr. Henry Livingston is described as the brother of Mr. Alexander Colville, Iconomus of Melrose, can only mean they were uterine brothers, i.e., their mother was Margaret Forrester, widow of Sir James Colville of East Wemyss. Robert Milne the younger's manuscript pedigree is thus proved correct: Sir James Colville's widow married Henry Livingston of Falkirk and was the mother of Mr. Henry Livingston, Minister of St. Ninian's.

    Family/Spouse: Agnes Gray. Agnes (daughter of Alexander Gray and Helen Little) was born about 1563 in Scotland; died between 1590 and 1594 in Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 5. Helen Livingston  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1575 in Scotland.