Elizabeth Allen

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• Name: Elizabeth
• Reference Number: 5749
• Birth: 4 Sep 1712, Stonington, New London, Connecticut, USA

Notes:

I have shown that the Samuel Allen who married Lydia Hastings is not the same Samuel Allen who is the father of Elizabeth. His daughter Elizabeth has a different birthday, lives in a different town and has a different husband. This line shows up in the on-line family trees and the OneWorldTrees, but it is proven to be incorrect. The details are as follows.

Baker in "Montville" shows that Lydia Hastings, dau of John Seaborn Hastings and Lydia Champney, married Samuel Allen of Massachusetts. They had a daughter Elizabeth Allen b. abt 1716 who married Jedidiah Graves. The Barbour Collection shows Elizabeth Allen married Jedidiah Graves June 1737 in East Haddam, Connecticut. The only way to reconcile this would be to say that Baker has the birth date of Elizabeth wrong and that she first married Samuel in 1732 and secondly married Jedidiah in 1737. BUT, according to The Barbour Collection Samuel Dewey and Elizabeth were continuing to have children until 1742, which means she could not have married Jedediah in 1737, thus she is a different person.

Elizabeth married Samuel Dewey on 6 Mar 1732/33 in Lebanon, New London, Connecticut, USA. Samuel (son of Nathaniel Dewey and Margaret Burroughs) was born on 5 Jul 1704 in Lebanon, New London, Connecticut, USA; died after 1742 in Lebanon, New London, Connecticut, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 4660

Samuel married Mindwell Post on 1 Dec 1756 in Hebron, Conn. Mindwell was born in 1741; died on 11 Mar 1826 in Lanesboro, Mass. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 5813
• Baptism: 31 Mar 1734, Lebanon, New London, Connecticut, USA

Notes:

Much of the information on John Phelps Jr comes from the Phelps Family History book (published 1899) and the Dewey Family History book (published 1898). Since their publication new information has emerged, in particular the Barbour Collection of Early Connecticut birth, marriage and death records (origjnal records on file at the Connecticut Public Library, with various indexes available on-line). Unfortunately, this older information permeates the online family trees causing much confusion and contradiction.

We also know he married Desire Dewey and had children with her. We cannot be certain if Deborah Dewey (who is listed in the Phelps book as his spouse) is a different woman from Desire, or was from an earlier marriage (Deborah is listed in the Dewey book as different from Desire, with a different birth date and different parents). But we now know that according to Connecticut Vital Records that he married Desire Dewey on 16 Jan 1755 and that 10 children were born in Hebron, Ct with John and Desire Phelps listed as the parents on each birth record.

Birth:
Vol 1 P60

Desire married John Phelps, Jr on 16 Jan 1755 in Lebanon, New London, Connecticut, USA. John (son of John Phelps, Sr and Anna Hosford) was born on 7 Sep 1731 in Hebron, Tolland, Connecticut, USA; died on 5 Apr 1814 in Marlborough, Hartford, Connecticut, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 494

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• Reference Number: 472

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• Reference Number: 461

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• Reference Number: 486

Nathan married Mindwell Horsford on 3 Dec 1766 in Hebron, Tolland, Connecticut, USA. Mindwell (daughter of Joseph Horsford and Eunice Beach) was born on 20 Jun 1745. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 17094

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Died:
1 Age: 1

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• Reference Number: 17095

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0 Age: 0

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• Reference Number: 4665

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Died:
66 Age: 66

Family/Spouse: Milley Mckee. Milley was born on 3 Apr 1762 in Bolton, Conn; died on 16 Nov 1842. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 17096

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10 Age: 10

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• Reference Number: 17097

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Died:
6 Age: 6

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• Reference Number: 17098

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Died:
84 Age: 84

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• Reference Number: 5699
• Birth: 12 Nov 1755

Family/Spouse: Amos Filer. Amos was born in 1758. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 5701
• Birth: 19 Oct 1757

Family/Spouse: Bersheba Huxford. Bersheba was born in 1760. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 5706
• Birth: 21 Jan 1759

Family/Spouse: Arminda Unknown. Arminda was born after 1759. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 5668
• Birth: 15 Oct 1760, Hebron, Tolland, Connecticut, USA

Jared married Rowena Fuller on 23 Sep 1784 in Hebron, Tolland, Connecticut, USA. Rowena was born on 3 Mar 1765 in Hebron, Tolland, Connecticut, USA; died on 14 May 1842 in East Smithfield, Bradford, Pennsylvania, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Publication: Newspaper article
• Publication: p396 Phelps Family in America-pers ID# 1555
• Name: Norman Phelps Senr
• Reference Number: 6156
• Birth: 8 Nov 1763
• _MILT: Between 1777 and 1781, New York, USA; Revolutionary War--numerous media files
• Residence: 1790, Kingsbury, Washington, New York, USA
• Residence: 1800; Westfield, Washington, New York
• Residence: 1810, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
• Residence: 1810; Queensbury, Washington, New York
• Residence: 1820, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
• Residence: 1830, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA

Notes:

Norman was 76 years old when he died, 7 days after the death of his wife Sarah. He and his wife were buried in the family burying ground on the Ortonville farm of his son, Benjamin Phelps. This family burial ground eventually became the Groveland Cemetery. In1973 it was renamed the Ortonville Cemetery.

This verse is on his gravestone:

Sweet is my beneath the ground
Till Gabriel blows the trumpet sound
Then Christ will come and bid me rise
And live with him above the skies

Abstracts of Revolutionary War Pension files for Norman PHELPS lists:

Phelps, Norman CT line, S29384. sol applied 18 Aug. 1832 at Fort Ann, NY.page 69 on 9 Nov 1831 and on 4 Mar. 1840 sol had moved to Groveland in Oakland Co. MI. having moved there from Fort Ann in Washington Co. NY. to be with his children. sol lived at Hebron,CT at enl and after the Revolution he lived at Hebron, Ct. then moved to Moretown, (HoosickFalls, NY.) for 2 years, then to Cambridge, NY. for 1 year then to Kingsbury, NY. then to Fort Ann, NY. His oath was taken by Manley IRISH, a grandson. Norman served as a musician and Private with Capt. SHERMAN'S Co., Col LATIMEER'S Regt. and other Companies of the Connecticut Line. He enlisted four times between 1777 and 1781.

Norman was listed in the Censuses as being in Kingsbury, NY. in 1790; Westfield (now Fort Ann) in
1800; Queensbury, NY in 1810; and Fort Ann, NY. in 1820 and 1830.

The following heirs and assigns sold their interest in Norman PHELPS'S original holding in
Lot # 53, Lake George Tract, to his son-in-law and daughter Asa W. and Polly BRAYTON, (PHELPS) in 1877: Norman PHELPS Jr.; Delia HARRIS, (PHELPS); Grandeos PHELPS; Sally IRISH, (PHELPS) of Michigan; Amasa PHELPS of Wisconsin and Grace DELAVERGNE, (PHELPS) and her husband Samuel
DELAVERGNE both of Iowa.

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On this eighteenth day of August one thousand eight (hundred) and thirty two personally appeared before me John Mops a Judge of Washington County Courts, Norman Phelps a resident of the town of Fort Ann in the county of Washington and state of New York aged sixty nine years the ninth day of November last past who being duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7, 1832:

That I entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated. That in the latter part of August in the year of 1777 resided in the town of Hebron, County of Hartford in the State of Connecticut. And at that time and year I volunteered into the service of the United States as a Musician in the militia of Connecticut entered the service under the command of Capt. John Skinner and Col Latimer commanded this regiment. Jack Jones was the Lieut Col and we marched to Stillwater and joined Gen Poor’s Brigade and were stationed on Bemis Heights where we remained for two (or) three weeks at which time Gen Burgoyne (The English commander) with his army was advancing and on the fourteenth of Sept he encamped on the heights of Saratoga. The Indians and Tories were committing their deprecation and there were small skirmishes at our out parts and on the night of the seventeenth Burgoyne encamped within a few miles and the next day we were employed in repairing bridges between the two camps and preparations were making for battle and on the nineteenth of Sept about two o’clock we were informed the enemy was approaching on our left where the battle commenced and then there was a general battle which continued until dark when we retired to our camp. I was informed the enemy lay on their arms all night. This battle was very severe. A great many killed and wounded. Neither party obtained the victory, although both claimed it. The next day Burgoyne retired a short distance. Both armies retained their distance position until the seventh day of October when there was another general battle that night and darkness put an end to the action. We lay all night with our arms in our hand ready to receive the assault the (end page 11)

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next day but in the cover of the night Burgoyne drew off his whole army to his strong camp on the river heights and on the eighth day of October at night he retreated to Saratoga. There came on a heavy rain. We pursued them and buried their dead. Gen Frazer (An English general) was wounded and died. Our forces had increased so much that Burgoyne was wholly surrounded. He did not retreat further than the falls north of Fish Creek and on the sixteenth of October he surrendered. We then marched to Albany where we encamped until I was discharged. I served at this time and did my duty as a Musician two months and returned home to Hebron aforesaid where I resided until in the month of June in the year of 1778 when I enlisted in the Connecticut State Troops under the command (of) Capt Lathran & Lieut Elijah Buck for six months. We marched to Groveton east of New London where we joined Col Lidgard regiment where we were stationed and was employed in building Fort Griswold and were engaged during the whole time of my enlistment before we had completed it which was in November when I was discharged. I served and did my duty as a private soldier six months and returned to Hebron aforesaid where I resided until the first of June in the year of 1780 when I enlisted in the Connecticut State Troops or new ( ) to fill up the continental line and went into the service for six months under the command of the Capt named Teannot Wolcut, Lieut Grovener we marched to Clarks Town near Topon Bay on the north river where we joined Col Hezekiel Holdridge’s regiment and Brig Gen Kunton’s brigade. We were stationed and encamped in Clarks Town. In the ( ) Gen George Washington came to review the troops in company with two Indian chiefs. At one time we were commanded by order of General Washington after we had been there about four months to move our encampment for the health of the troops. When went to Florvy Straw about four miles and encamped. During this time Major Arnold was hung for (being) a spy and Gen Green took his department and marched to the southward to meet Cornwallis. By the order of the commander in chief we remained here until the first of Dec when my time expired and I received a written discharge signed by Col Hezekial Holdridge which I gave on my return to my father. I do not know where it (is) nor what has become of it. I served and did my duty as a private soldier six months & returned (end of page 12)

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to Hebron aforesaid and on the first of April in the year 1781 I enlisted in the Connecticut State Troops for one year as a Musician. ( ) Lieut Root was the muster master. After I enlisted we were employed in drilling and in testing soldiers about two months and then we marched to Middlesex Hill where we was met by the enemy and a small skirmish ensued between us. We retreated. Had three men killed. We then marched to Stanford and Horse Neck where we joined our Capt Moulton and ensign Cutter which was the company I belonged to. We were there also attached to Brig Gen Sholerteury’s brigade where we were stationed as a guard to the ( ) ( ). We built barracks for winter quarters on the back of Talmer’s Hill where we encamped for winter. And sometimes in the winter the refugees commanded by Gen Dilingser came in sight of us to take our garrison. Capt Niland went out with a party and met them. He killed several and drove the rest away. We had several skirmishes with them during the winter and the first of April in the year of 1782 Gen Sholerteury marched us into Sanford Town where we were discharged. I served and did my duty as a Musician one year and returned home to the town of Hebron aforesaid where I resided until after the revolutionary war. And then moved to Moretown where I resided two years. I then moved to the town of Cambridge where I lived one year. From there I moved into Kingsbury and lived (there) three years. I moved from there into the town of Fort Ann where I now live and have lived ever since.
That I have no documentary evidence and that I know of no person whose testimony I can provide who can testify to my service except Jonathon Horton and John Powers whose affidavits are hereunto annexed. That I was born in the town of Hebron, County of Hartford in the year of 1763 and State of Connecticut. That I have received no discharge in writing except the one which is already accounted for. That there is no clergyman living in the neighborhood where I reside. That in the town book in Hebron aforesaid there is a record of my age. And that I cannot attend the court from my bodily infirmities that Nathanial Pitcher and Reuben C Gibson are persons who I am known in my present neighborhood who can testify as to my character for veracity and their belief of my living as a soldier of the revolution.(end page 13)

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I hereby relinquish every claim whatever to a pension of annuity except the present and ( ). That my name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any state.

Signed Norman Phelps
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid before me John Mafs.

Nathaniel Pitcher and Reuben C Gibson residing in the town of Kingsbury hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Norman Phelps who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration that we believe him to be sixty nine years of age that he is respected and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution and we concur in that opinion.
Signed Nathaniel Pitcher and Reuben C Gibson
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid before me John Mops.

And I the said Judge do hereby declare my opinion after the investigation of the matters and after getting the interrogatories subscribed by the war department that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he stated and I the said Judge further certifies that it appears to me that Nathanial Pitcher and Reuben C Gibson who has signed the preceding certificate are entitled to credit.

I further certify that the applicant Norman Phelps cannot from bodily infirmity attend the court.
State of New York, Washington County. Signed John Mops

I, John L Leigh Clerk of the said county do certify that John Mops before whom the preceding declaration, certificates and affidavits purports to have been sworn was at the date of the ( ) one of the judges of Washington County Courts of Common Pleas in and for said County and also (end page 14)

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State of New York Washington County personally appeared this 17th day of August in the year of the lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty two, before me Joshua Pelton, one of the justices of the peace and for the town of Hartford, County of aforesaid, Jonathon Horton a person well known to me and of undoubted truth and veracity and deposeth and saith that he is acquainted with Norman Phelps and knows that he was in the state service of the State of Connecticut and that he served as Musician under the command of General Poor in the Company of Captain John Skinner at Bemas’s Heights in the State of New York in the revolutionary war at the taking of General Burgoyne in the year 1777 a little over two months at that time and this deponent being in the service at the same time and further this deponent saith not.
Signed Jonathon Horton
Subscribed and sworn before me this 17th day of August 1832
Joshua Pelton Justice of the Peace. (end page 16)

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State of New York Warren County
Personally appeared this 14th day of August in the year one thousand eight hundred and thirty two, before Hobby Mead one of the judges of the court of Common Pleas in and for said County John Powers a person to me well known deposeth and saith that Norman Phelps was in the service of the State of Connecticut and served as a drummer under the command of General Mabrberry, Capt Moulton at Stanford and Horsneck in the revolutionary war to guard the ( ) for one year this deponent being in the service at the same time and thinks they served about a year, and in the year 1781, and further this deponent saith not.
Signed John Power
Subscribed and sworn this 14th day of August 1832 before me.
Signed Hobby Mead. (end page 17)

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State of New York Warren County, John Powers being duly sworn according to law deposeth and saith that he was well acquainted with Norman Phelps as a revolutionary soldier whose declaration in order to attain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832 is hereunto annexed.
This deponent further saith that Norman Phelps enlisted in Connecticut State Troops in the month of April in the year of 1781 for one year as a Musician and went into the service under the command of Capt Moulton and was attached to the Waterberry brigade.
And this deponent further saith he was in the United States service at the same time and that Norman Phelps did his duty as a Musician in the service during the whole term of his enlistment and was discharged in April in the year of 1782 and this deponent further saith not.
Signed John Powers
Certify the above oath or affidavit was taken before me in due form of law on this 19th day of Sept 1832 and that the said John Powers is a man of truth & veracity
Signed Ira A Paddock ( )
Court of Common Pleas
(end page 18)

Buried:
Ortonville Cemetery

Norman married Sarah Cole on 23 Nov 1784 in Hebron, Tolland, Connecticut, USA. Sarah (daughter of Ebenezer Cole, Jr and Abigail Wise) was born on 4 Feb 1765 in Lebanon, New London, Connecticut, USA; died on 11 Sep 1840 in Ortonville, Oakland, Michigan, USA; was buried after 11 Sep 1840 in Groveland, Oakland, Michigan, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 5704
• Birth: 31 Dec 1765

Family/Spouse: Abigail Fuller. Abigail was born about 1765. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 5662

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• Reference Number: 5946
• Birth: 8 Mar 1771

Dudley married Cynthia Unknown on 23 Dec 1795 in Hebron, Tolland, Connecticut, USA. Cynthia was born after 1771. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 5664
• Birth: 10 Jun 1773, Hebron, Tolland, Connecticut, USA

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Child with this birthdate is listed in the Phelps book as Keziah Phelps.

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• Reference Number: 5725
• Birth: 10 Jun 1778

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• Reference Number: 361

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• Reference Number: 372
• Birth: 17 Jun 1767, Hebron, Tolland, Connecticut, USA

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• Reference Number: 351

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• Reference Number: 17100

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Died:
78 Age: 78

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• Reference Number: 4670

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Died:
67 Age: 67

Wealthy married Phineas Richards on 24 Feb 1818. Phineas was born in 1788; died on 25 Nov 1874 in Salt Lake City. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 17102

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Died:
42 Age: 42

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• Reference Number: 4623

Family/Spouse: Ann Phelps. Ann was born in 1808; died on 12 May 1834; was buried in Groton, Middlesex County, Massachusetts, United States of America. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Lucretia Gardner Farley. Lucretia (daughter of Benjamin M Farley and Lucretia Farley) was born on 14 Jan 1806 in Hollis, Hillsborough County, New Hampshire, United States of America; died on 20 Feb 1868 in Boston, Suffolk County, Massachusetts, United States of America; was buried in Groton, Middlesex County, Massachusetts, United States of America. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 272

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• Reference Number: 277

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• Reference Number: 267

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• Reference Number: 262

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• Reference Number: 252

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• Reference Number: 269

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• Reference Number: 257

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• Reference Number: 3572
• Residence: 1850, Colebrook, Litchfield, Connecticut, USA
• Residence: 1860, Colebrook, Litchfield, Connecticut, USA

Wealthy married Gordon Wilcox in Feb 1826 in Smithfield, Bradford, Pennsylvania, USA. Gordon (son of Thomas Wilcox and Jerusha Taylor) was born on 10 Mar 1798; died on 21 Dec 1865 in Smithfield, Bradford, Pennsylvania, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 259

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• Reference Number: 255

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• Reference Number: 6186
• Residence: 1810, Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA
• Residence: 1840, Groveland, Oakland, Michigan, USA
• Residence: 1860, Groveland, Oakland, Michigan, USA
• Residence: 1870, Groveland, Oakland, Michigan, USA

Notes:

from a gencircles web site:
There was an article in the The Washington Post of March 10, 1808; "The wife of David IRISH of Westfield (Now Fort Ann, Washington Co. NY.)was delivered of five children, two sons and three daughters. They were alive when born, but died in a few hours. They altogether weighed seven pounds and fiveounces." Note of this event was also made in the 1810 Census of Queensbury, Warren Co. NY.

"David Irish, with a wife and three children, was the last family listed in the 1810 census of Queenbury, Washington County, New York. At the bottom of the page, the census-taker wrote a footnote concerning David's wife as follows: 'This woman is 24 years old and has had 10 children, 5 of which were born at one and the same time.' This may be the first instance of quintuplets recorded in this country."
Printed in National Genealogical Society Quarterly, June 1965, Vol. 53.

Re: David Irish of Queenbury, quintuplets, 1810 Census
ECROSS (View posts)
Posted: 29 Aug 2004 2:55AM GMT
Classification: Query

The number of children caught our eye, so we looked at the family. The note is really there, and does appear to be marked for David.

The Irish families living in Queensbury in 1810 are:
Amos Irish
Andrew Irish
Benjamin Irish
David Irish
Jonathan Irish

There is an extremely well presented website for the Irish family at:
http://lthome.com/genealogy/

We copied the following information from there:
Benjamin Irish
Birth , 16 Mar 1749/50 , S. Kingston, Washington, RI
Father , Joseph Irish, b. 20 Apr 1724, S. Kingston, Washington Co., RI
Mother , Dorcas (Irish)
Group Sheet , F0918

1. Andrew Irish, b. BET 1765 AND 1784
2. David Irish, b. 23 Jan 1783
3. Amos Irish, b. 1786, Amenia, Dutchess, NY
4. Jonathan Irish, b. 27 Jul 1789, Warren or Washington Co., NY

This looks like the family.

It should be noted that though the census says that Mrs Irish had 10 kids, only 3 are living with them.

Herb Phelps (View posts)
Posted: 6 Dec 2004 10:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: IRISH, PHELPS
There was also another write-up regarding these births:
(There was an article in the The Washington Post of March 10, 1808; "The wife of David IRISH of
Westfield (Now Fort Ann, Washington Co. NY.)was delivered of five children, two sons and three daughters. They were alive when born , but died in a few hours. They altogether weighed seven pounds and five ounces." Note of this event was also made in the 1810 Census of Queensbury, Warren Co. NY.)
David's wife was Sally PHELPS daughter of Norman PHELPS Sr. of Fort Ann, Washington Co. NY. born July 31, 1785 in Hebron, Tolland Co. CT. They moved to Michigan in 1837 and David & Sally were divorced on November 15, 1847.
Sally died in Groveland, Oakland Co. MI on February 17, 1879


Buried:
St Charles Cemetery

Died:
date from gravestone

Sally married David Irish in 1805 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA, and was divorced on 15 Nov 1847 in Oakland, Michigan, USA. David (son of Benjamin Irish) was born on 23 Jan 1783 in Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA; died on 8 Jan 1855 in Groveland, Oakland, Michigan, USA; was buried after 8 Jan 1855 in Ortonville, Oakland, Michigan, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 365

Notes:

Died:
after 1877

Family/Spouse: Samuel Delavergne. Samuel was born in 1769; died in in Iowa, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: Harman Phelps
• Name: Norman Phelps Jr Jr
• Name: Norman Phelps Senr
• Reference Number: 6396
• Birth: 1787, Vermont, USA
• Birth: 1788, Connecticut, USA
• Birth: 1788, New York, USA
• Birth: Nov 1788, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
• Birth: 1789, Massachusetts, USA
• Birth: Abt 1789
• Birth: 1805, New York, USA
• Residence: 1810; Queensbury, Washington, New York
• _MILT: 1814, New York, USA; 23rd Regiment, New York Militia
• _MILT: 12 Sep 1814, New York, USA
• Residence: 1820, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
• Residence: 1825, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
• Residence: 1830, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
• Residence: 1835, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
• Residence: 1 Jun 1840, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
• Residence: 1850, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
• Residence: 1855, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA; Age: 66; Relation to Head of House: Head
• Residence: 1860, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
• Residence: 1865, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA
• Residence: 1870, Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA
• Probate: 1878, Washington, New York, USA; Release of Real Estate by heirs

Notes:

NORMAN PHELPS JR

Norman Phelps Jr was born in the vicinity of Bradford, Vermont on 9 Nov 1787. We arrived at this conclusion after analyzing much confusing and conflicting information. The phelpsinc.com website shows Fort Ann, New York in Nov 1788. Norman Phelps himself had listed 4 different States of birth on 4 different census records; New York (1850), Massachusetts (1855), Vermont (1860) and Connecticut (1870)!! This confusion is apparently from his father Norman Phelps, Sr having moved around considerably during the few years before and after Norman's birth. This movement is logged in Norman Sr's military pension file. Approximate dates are given for each move in terms of number of years after the war. It is very approximate. Apparently Norman was aware of the movement, but was himself confused as to which State his father was actually living when Norman Jr was born. The only documentation we have is a log entry by Mrs. Lydia Phelps Baldwin of Bradford, Vermont who logged every birth she attended over a 52 year span, over 500 names (New England Historical & Genealogical Register 1950 Vol 104 P263). She recorded the birth of a son to Norman Phelps on 9 Nov 1787. Unfortunately she did not record the spouses name or the sons name, so we can not be certain that this is the same person. However Norman Sr did not have any sons other than Norman in this time period. Mrs Baldwin was a first cousin to Norman Sr and a review of her log entries shows that she also assisted in delivery of Dewey and Horsford children who were related to Norman Sr's mother, Desire Dewey. Norman Jr's grave stone shows died 19 May 1871 age 83 & 6 mos, which is Nov 1787. Considering that his father's pension record shows that he was in Vermont in that approximate time period and that the midwife keeping the log was his fathers close relative, then this birth date and place becomes quite plausible.

According to the 1790 Federal Census Norman was living in Kingsbury. According to his fathers pension file, they lived in Kingsbury for a total of 3 years then moved to Fort Ann where Norman Jr lived until sometime prior to 1870 when he moved to Queensbury, New York.

The records for the War of 1812 show Norman Phelps Jr as a private in the 23rd Regiment (Cook's) of the New York Militia.

He died 19 May 1871 in (Queensbury) Warren County, New York. He is buried in Seelye Cemetery in Warren County, New York.

He married first in 1809 to Thankful Chase. Thankful Chase is the daughter of Caleb Chase and Hannah Ellison. She was born on 11 Feb 1791 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA. Her death 1860 in Novi, Oakland, Michigan, USA (after summer 1860). They had no children.

He married second in 1810 to her sister Hannah Chase. She was born on 05 Mar 1785 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA. She died 1834.

Children of Norman Phelps Jr and Hannah Chase:

1. Evalina Phelps. Born abt 1813. Married first William Brown with whom she had 7 children. Married 2nd Solomon Dickinson in 1853.

2. Reuben Gibson Phelps. He was born Bet. 1814-1815 in New York, New York, USA. He died on 15 Jul 1879 in Burton, Genesee, Michigan, USA.

3. Samuel Stiles Phelps. He was born on 16 Dec 1816 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA. He married Catherine Dempsey. They were married 1850. He died on 17 Sep 1893 in Town Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA.

4. Asa Phelps. He was born 1818. Probably died young.

5. Gilbert Phelps. He was born 1820. Probably died young.

6. Sylvia Ann Phelps. She was born on 24 Jul 1825 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA. She married Elbridge Gerry Cilley. They were married on 10 Jan 1843 in Warren, New York, USA. She died on 26 Aug 1869 in Bolton, Warren, New York, USA.

He married for third time to Minerva Burdick in approx. 1843. He was Minerva's second husband (Fredrick Plum being her first).

Minerva had a child with Fredrick Plum:
1) Martha Minerva Plum. She was born on 30 Oct 1838. She married Justin Merrill. Their marriage Bef. 1855 (not in mother's household 1855 census). She died on 15 Oct 1911 in Bolton, Warren, New York, USA. (Her death certificate shows Fredrick Plum and Minerva Burdick as parents).

Children of Norman Phelps Jr and Minerva Burdick:

1. Andrew James Phelps. His birth on 09 Dec 1843 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA. He died on 05 Oct 1923 in Washington, New York, USA.

2. Sarah Rebecca Phelps. Her birth Apr 1845 in New York, USA (based on all avail evidence). She married Joseph Oscar Shultz. They were married on 15 Dec 1861 in Fairgrove, Tuscola, Michigan, USA. She died on 05 Apr 1932 in Bay City, Bay, Michigan, USA.


Birth:
per phelpsinc.com

Buried:
Seelye Cemetery

Norman married Minerva Burdick about 1842. Minerva (daughter of Daniel Burdick and Annie Shaw) was born in 1803 in Warren, New York, USA; died on 27 Sep 1878 in Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Norman married Thankful Chase in 1809. Thankful (daughter of Caleb Chase and Hannah Ellison) was born on 11 Feb 1791 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA; died in 1860 in Novi, Oakland, Michigan, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Norman married Hannah Chase in 1810. Hannah (daughter of Caleb Chase and Hannah Ellison) was born on 5 Mar 1785 in Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA; died in 1834. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events:

• Reference Number: 5756
• Residence: 1850, Racine, Racine, Wisconsin, USA; 4 Age: 4; AttendedSchool: Yes

Notes:

Died:
after 1877

Amasa married Electa Harris in 1821. Electa was born on 28 Mar 1804; died on 9 May 1846. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Lydia Edwards. Lydia was born in 1812 in Massachusetts, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events:

• Reference Number: 6040
• Birth: Abt 1796, New York, USA
• Residence: 1850, Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA

Notes:

from: http://family.phelpsinc.com/phelpsfam/d0014/f0000006.html#I5389
1850 Federal Census listed Alpheus as a farmer with assets worth $2300.00.
Alpheus served as a drummer in Lt. Amos Green's Co., 121st Regt., NewYork Militia, in the war
of 1812. He was mustered at Sandy Hill, NY on September 10, 1814 and was discharged 15 days later at Burlington, VT.
He was described at enlistment: Age 19, as having dark hair, brown eyes and light complextion.
After his discharge they resided at Fort Ann, Washington Co. NY. and thenThe Town of
Queensbury, Warren Co. NY.

Family/Spouse: Martella Jenkins. Martella was born on 23 Sep 1800 in Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA; died on 23 Aug 1889 in Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events:

• Reference Number: 2927
• Birth: 1800
• Birth: 1800, New York, USA
• Birth: 1801, New York, USA
• Residence: 1850, Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA
• Residence: 1860, Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA
• Residence: 1870, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA

Notes:

from: http://family.phelpsinc.com/phelpsfam/d0014/f0000006.html#I5389
Was listed as an Innkeeper on the 1850 Federal Census for Washington Co., NY. John was the Manager of the "Trout Pavilion", Lake George, NY.

Family/Spouse: Francis Bentley. Francis was born in 1812. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events:

• Reference Number: 2902

Notes:

Died:
Seelye Cemetery inscription

Family/Spouse: Rebecca Maxfield. Rebecca (daughter of Joshua Maxfield, Jr and Acenath Young) was born on 29 Aug 1815; died on 19 Jun 1866 in New York, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events:

• Race: White
• Name: Polly Brayton
• Reference Number: 2929
• Residence: 1850, Queensbury, Warren, New York, USA; 45 Age: 45

Family/Spouse: Asa W Brayton. Asa was born about 1805; died on 14 May 1895 in Queensbury, Warren County, New York, United States of America; was buried in Queensbury, Warren County, New York, United States of America. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events:

• Name: Benjn Phelps
• Reference Number: 5955
• Residence: 1840, Pontiac, Oakland, Michigan, USA
• Residence: 1850, Groveland, Oakland, Michigan, USA
• Residence: 1860, Groveland, Oakland, Michigan, USA

Notes:

Death record states insane under cause of death

Buried:
Ortonville Cemetery

Died:
Age: 60

Family/Spouse: Angelina Orton. Angelina (daughter of Amos Orton and Lovisa Williams) was born in 1810 in Hadley, Saratoga, New York, USA; died on 16 Apr 1869; was buried in Apr 1869 in Groveland, Oakland, Michigan, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events:

• Reference Number: 4584

Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]