Johann Philipp Felsing

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• Reference Number: 1491

Johann married Louise Gross in 1889. Louise was born about 1863. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Amalie Felsing was born on 22 Oct 1890 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia; died on 12 Sep 1977 in Saginaw, Saginaw, Michigan, USA.
2. Maria Katharina Felsing was born on 13 Aug 1892 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia; died on 15 Sep 1895 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
3. Jakob Felsing was born on 12 Aug 1899 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia; died on 21 Nov 1901 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
4. Katharina Margaretha Felsing was born on 11 Jul 1902 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
5. Elisabeth Felsing was born on 27 Oct 1903 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
6. Johannes Felsing was born on 26 Jan 1906 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
7. Philipp Felsing was born on 5 Jul 1908 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

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• Name: Johann Peter Falsinger
• Name: Peter Felsing
• Reference Number: 268
• Birth: 1830, Kukkus, Samara, Russia
• Residence: 1834, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH19
• Residence: 1850, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH32
• Residence: 1857, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH39

Johann married Susanna Reitz after 1 Jul 1850. Susanna (daughter of Andreas Reitz and Maria Elisabeth Heinrich) was born in 1829 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia; died on 17 Dec 1893 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 533
• Residence: 1834, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH8
• Residence: 1850, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH13
• Residence: 1857, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH39

Notes:

Married:
not married on 1850 census

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• Name: Georg Felsing
• Name: Johann Georg Falsinger
• Name: Johann Georg Feleing
• Reference Number: 1408
• Birth: 1784
• Residence: 1798, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH38
• Residence: 1811, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH30
• Residence: 1816, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH62
• Residence: 1834, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH19
• Residence: 1850, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH32

Notes:

Johannes Felsing was the deceased husband of the deceased first wife of Johann Peter Debus according to the note on the entry for his son Johann Georg (who was living in the household of Johann Peter Debus) in the 1798 census. Johann Peter Debus had a son with his second wife in 1791, which implies that his first wife died before 1791. His first wife only married Johann Peter after her first husband Johannes had died, therefore Johannes had to die before 1791, most likely a few years before. As his son was born 1784, his death date had to be between 1784 and 1791.

Johann married Maria Charlotte Heizenraeder before 1811 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia. Maria (daughter of Johann Thomas Heizenraeder and Anna Margareta Becker) was born in 1790. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: Charlotta Heizenraeder
• Name: Charlotte Heizenraeder
• Name: Maria Charlotta Unknown
• Reference Number: 2188
• Birth: 1783
• Birth: 1791
• Residence: 1798, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH30
• Residence: 1834, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH19
• Residence: 1850, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH32

Notes:

The 1783 birth year on the 1834 census and the surname chart appears to be in error. Her mother would have been 13 when she was born! The age on the 1798 census and the 1850 census is more like it. Perhaps the 1834 entyry was a transcription error and that was then picked up in the surname chart.

Notes:

Married:
age of 1st child and living in Heitzenrader houshold in 1811.

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• Reference Number: 311
• Residence: 1798, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH37
• Residence: 1816, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH8
• Residence: 1834, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH8
• Residence: 1850, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH13

Andreas married Maria Elisabeth Heinrich. Maria (daughter of Philipp Wilhelm Heinrich and Anna Margaretha Wetleifer) was born in 1794 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: Maria Elisabeth Unknown
• Reference Number: 1038
• Residence: 1798, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH20
• Residence: 1834, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH8
• Residence: 1850, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH13
• Residence: 1857, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH17

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• Reference Number: 1407

Notes:

We only know this person by name through a note in the 1798 census as the deceased father of Johann Georg. Based on the date of birth of Johann Georg, 1784, his father had to be born prior to 1767, thus he had to be listed on the 1767 census. There were two Felsing(er) familes on the 1767 census and each has one possible match to Johannes. Johann Georg Felsinger born 1761, appears on the 1798 Krasnoyar census as the deceased father of Konrad Felsinger born 1784. Johann Konrad Felsing born 1759, appears on the 1767 Paulskaya census, but appears nowhere in 1798.

Johannes Felsing was the deceased husband of the deceased first wife (name unknown) of Johann Peter Debus according to the note on the entry for his son Johann Georg (who was living in the household of Johann Peter Debus) in the 1798 census. Johann Peter Debus had a son with his second wife in 1791, which implies that his first wife died before 1791. His first wife only married Johann Peter after her first husband Johannes had died, therefore Johannes had to die before 1791, most likely a few years before. As his son was born 1784, his death date had to be between 1784 and 1791.

Birth:
based on son born 1783

Died:
his widow had child in 1791 with Peter Debus

Johannes married Unknown Unknown. Unknown was born before 1763. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 10198

Notes:

Birth:
based on spouse's age

Notes:

Married:
1st husband

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• Name: Johann Thomas Heitzenraeder
• Name: Thomas Hergenroeder
• Reference Number: 2185
• Birth: 1764
• Birth: 1765
• Arrival: 4 Jul 1766, Oranienbaum, Saint Petersburg, Russia; "Love and Unite" skipper Thomas Fairfax
• Residence: 1767, Balzer, Saratov, Russia; HH75
• Arrival: 26 Jun 1767, Balzer, Saratov, Russia
• Residence: 1775, Balzer, Saratov, Russia; HH70
• Residence: 1798, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH30
• Residence: 1816, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH62

Notes:

Balzer movement chart: Christoph Heizenrader and family moved to Kukkus in 1790.

As the first child was born in 1790 or 1791 that could imply that he married in Balzer, shortly before the family movement. Margareta Becker, dau of Weis Becker, b. 1770 would be the only Balzer possibility. As we do not have a 1775 Kukkus census, we do not know if there are any Kukkus possibilities. If he married a Kukkus girl, they would have to have been married very shortly after moving to Kukkus.

Johann married Anna Margareta Becker about 1789. Anna (daughter of David Becker and Anna Maria Steckenmesser) was born in 1770. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 2186
• Birth: 1767, Kukkus, Samara, Russia
• Residence: 1767, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH31
• Arrival: 26 Jun 1767, Kukkus, Samara, Russia
• Residence: 1798, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH30

Notes:

Kukkus birth records include the following:
#31, 32. Twins Cath. Magd. [Catharina Magdalena] and Maria Charl. [Charlotta] Beker [Becker], born 13, baptized 20 November 1799.
Parents: Conrad Beker and Catharina Haase from the village Volskoye.
Godparents and witnesses: Joh. Horch, Magd. Beker, Thom. Heizenroeder, M. Charl. Fuchs.

HH 43 in 1798 - these are the parents
HH 42 contains Maria Charlotta Fuchs, a sponsor
HH 30 contains Thomas Hei..., another sponsor, married to Anna Margaretha Becker
HH 31 has a Becker wife named Magdalena that I suspect is another sponsor

These sponsors might suggest that Maria Charlotta (Becker) Fuchs, Anna Margaretha (Becker) Hei..., and Wilhelm Becker were siblings of Johann Conrad Becker. We know from the 1811 Kukkus census HH43 that Konrad and Wilhelm were brothers. Most likely Anna Margaetha was the child of Dvid on the 1767 1st settler list. It is possible that child died and David had another female in 1770 named Anna Margaretha.

HH 24 in Stahl am Tarlyk has a Johannes Horch, but I don't see how he'd be connected. I suspect it must be some other Horch that perhaps had a Becker wife.

Notes:

Married:
est. based on 1st child

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• Name: Johann Reitz
• Reference Number: 487
• Birth: 1757
• Arrival: 8 Aug 1766, Oranienbaum, Saint Petersburg, Russia
• Residence: 1767, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH25
• Arrival: 26 Jun 1767, Kukkus, Samara, Russia
• Residence: 1798, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH37

Notes:

Birth:
Y

Johannes married Anna Katharina Elisabeth Johann in Kukkus, Samara, Russia. Anna (daughter of Johann Michael Johann and Eva Margaretha Sattler) was born in 1764. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: Elisabeta Johann
• Name: Katharina Elisabeth Johann
• Reference Number: 4109
• Arrival: 7 Sep 1764
• Residence: 1767, Anton, Saratov, Russia; HH1
• Residence: 1775, Anton, Saratov, Russia; HH 19
• Residence: 1798, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH37

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• Reference Number: 1054
• Birth: 1776
• Residence: 1798, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH20
• Residence: 1816, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH10

Philipp married Anna Margaretha Wetleifer in 1792 in Kukkus, Samara, Russia. Anna (daughter of Georg Wetleifer) was born in 1771. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 1084
• Arrival: 1792, Kukkus, Samara, Russia
• Residence: 1798, Kukkus, Samara, Russia; HH20

Notes:

1798 Census notes she is from Norka