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Maria Christina Goeringer

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  • Name Maria Christina Goeringer  [1
    Birth Abt 1896  Samara, Russia Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Born 16 Dec 1896  Lauwe, Samara, Russia Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Gender Female 
    Birth 16 Dec 1896  [1
    • illegitimate
    Arrival 15 Nov 1901  Quebec and Montreal, Quebec, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Arrival 1902  [2
    Age: 5 
    Arrival 1902  [4
    Age: 6 
    Race White  [2
    Name Maria Krumm  [2
    Name Marie Unknown  [4
    Name Marie Unknown  [5
    Name Mary Gehringer  [6, 7
    Residence 1910  Blumfield, Saginaw, Michigan, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Age: 13; Marital Status: Single; Relation to Head of House: Daughter 
    Residence 1920  Au Gres, Arenac, Michigan, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Age: 24; Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Wife 
    Residence 1930  Turner, Arenac, Michigan, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Age: 34; Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Wife 
    Residence 1930  Turner, Arenac, Michigan, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Age: 34; Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Wife 
    Person ID I11541  kukkusfamilies
    Last Modified 27 May 2018 

    Mother Maria Christina Goeringer,   b. 21 May 1877, Lauwe, Samara, Russia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Relationship Natural 
    Family ID F3533  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Andreas Krumm,   b. 10 May 1889, Kukkus, Samara, Russia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married 23 Feb 1913  Turner, Arenac, Michigan, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [6, 7
    Children 
     1. George Krum,   b. Abt 1915, Michigan, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [Natural]
     2. John Krum,   b. Abt 1916, Michigan, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [Natural]
     3. Hilda Krum,   b. Abt 1917, Michigan, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [Natural]
     4. Living
    Last Modified 27 May 2018 
    Family ID F3475  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsResidence - Age: 13; Marital Status: Single; Relation to Head of House: Daughter - 1910 - Blumfield, Saginaw, Michigan, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 23 Feb 1913 - Turner, Arenac, Michigan, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - Age: 24; Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Wife - 1920 - Au Gres, Arenac, Michigan, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - Age: 34; Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Wife - 1930 - Turner, Arenac, Michigan, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - Age: 34; Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Wife - 1930 - Turner, Arenac, Michigan, USA Link to Google Earth
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  • Photos
    1910 United States Federal Census - Andreas Krumm
    1910 United States Federal Census - Andreas Krumm
    Record for Andrew Krum
    1920 United States Federal Census - Andrew Krumm
    1920 United States Federal Census - Andrew Krumm
    Year: 1920; Census Place: Au Gres, Arenac, Michigan
    At least one living or private individual is linked to this item - Details withheld.
    Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 - Andreas Krumm
    Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 - Andreas Krumm

  • Notes 
    • Information from Jack JDS:
      This woman is Maria Christina Goringer/Garinger, the illegitimate daughter
      of above. As her mother brought her to Kukkus when she (the mother)
      married Krumm/Krum, she became the stepdaughter of Krumm/Krum. In fact,
      she is listed as the stepdaughter in two records showing their immigration
      through Quebec City, QC, Canada. In one she is listed a handful of lines
      above the Krumm/Krum family, and in the other she is written in as the last
      entry with the family. In both she's a stepdaughter. I think this clan
      came in to Quebec City and traveled through Winnipeg on their way to
      Lincoln, NE.

      In the 1910 Census the Krumm/Krum family is listed in Michigan with 6 kids,
      the eldest being Margaretha Catharina from Krumm/Krum's prior
      marriage. The son Andreas/Andrew from the same prior marriage was still in
      Nebraska, where the family had originally settled. I believe he was
      working as a laborer on a farm a few counties away from Lincoln and
      enumerated as "Andy Krumb." He subsequently followed to Michigan as I will
      note in a moment. The next eldest "Krum" daughter was, in fact, the
      stepdaughter Maria Christina Goringer/Garinger, the illegitimate daughter
      of the wife Maria Christina (Goringer) Krumm/Krum. The remaining 4 kids
      were from both of these parents, and they are actually the only ones
      included in the "count" of 4 born, 4 living. It should read 5 born, 5
      living, but apparently either the enumerator or the wife did not understand
      that this field meant kids by just the mother, not by both parents. The
      record also indicates that these folks had been married 10 years, he on his
      second marriage, she on her first. In his case I'm not so sure that he was
      only married once before, but in hers this was, in fact, her first marriage.

      On 23 Feb 1913 Andreas/Andrew, son of Krumm/Krum by the prior marriage,
      married Maria Christina Goringer/Garinger, the illegitimate daughter of
      Maria Christina (Goringer) Krumm/Krum. I wonder how they met? Ha! In the
      record the bride's name is spelled Garinger, which is the variant used by
      most, if not all, of my Goringer cousins that settled in Michigan. The
      bride's father's name is "Peter." It may well actually have been some
      Peter, but I doubt it. The mother's name was "Mary." The bride was living
      with her mother, Maria Christina aka "Mary" and her stepfather, so I would
      think her mother was "kind enough" to supply her with the "legitimate"
      father's name. Actually, I think what her mother provided was her own (the
      mother's) father's name, Peter, and it wouldn't surprise me if she never
      let on to the girl that she was illegitimate, and that the girl's obituary
      may well also be incorrect on this point. Either way, the fact that the
      mother provided this name Peter seems to have led most, if not all,
      "genealogists" astray. Ha! They could search for the mysterious Peter
      Goringer until the end of time, and they'd never find him because he
      doesn't exist.

  • Sources 
    1. [S247] Genealogical Information, provided by JDS.

    2. [S336] 1910 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2006;), Year: 1910; Census Place: Blumfield, Saginaw, Michigan; Roll: T624_671; Page: 8B; Enumeration District: 0027; FHL microfilm: 1374684.
      Record for Andreas Krumm

    3. [S350] Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;).
      Record for Andreas Krum

    4. [S337] 1920 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;), Year: 1920; Census Place: Au Gres, Arenac, Michigan.
      Record for Andrew Krum

    5. [S338] 1930 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2002;), Year: 1930; Census Place: Turner, Arenac, Michigan; Roll: 973; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 18; Image: 1102.0; FHL microfilm: 2340708.
      Record for Andrew Krum

    6. [S59] Michigan Marriages.
      father: Andrew
      mother: Mary Try
      spouse: Mary Garinger
      other: Peter, ...ry Garinger
      Name Andrew Krum
      Race (Original)
      Age (Expanded) 23 years
      Birth Year 1890
      Birthplace Russia
      Spouse's Name Mary Garinger
      Spouse's Race (Original)
      Spouse's Age (Expanded) 18 years
      Spouse's Birth Year 1895
      Spouse's Birthplace Russia
      Event Date 23 Feb 1913
      Event Place Turner, Arenac, Michigan
      Father's Name Andrew
      Mother's Name Mary Try
      Spouse's Father's Name Peter
      Spouse's Mother's Name ...ry Garinger
      Marital Status
      Previous Wife's Name
      Spouse's Marital Status
      Spouse's Previous Husband's Name
      GS Film number 2342700
      Frame Number
      Digital Folder Number 4209171
      Reference ID v 1 p 1 rn 5

    7. [S59] Michigan Marriages.
      father: Andrew mother: Mary Try spouse: Mary Garinger other: Peter, ...ry Garinger Name Andrew Krum Race (Original) Age (Expanded) 23 years Birth Year 1890 Birthplace Russia Spouse's Name Mary Garinger Spouse's Race (Original) Spouse's Age (Expanded) 18 years Spouse's Birth Year 1895 Spouse's Birthplace Russia Event Date 23 Feb 1913 Event Place Turner, Arenac, Michigan Father's Name Andrew Mother's Name Mary Try Spouse's Father's Name Peter Spouse's Mother's Name ...ry Garinger Marital Status Previous Wife's Name Spouse's Marital Status Spouse's Previous Husband's Name GS Film number 2342700 Frame Number Digital Folder Number 4209171 Reference ID v 1 p 1 rn 5