1896 - 1933 (36 years)
Set As Default Person
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Name |
Maria Christina Goeringer [1] |
Birth |
Abt 1896 |
Samara, Russia [2, 3, 4] |
Born |
16 Dec 1896 |
Lauwe, Samara, Russia [1] |
Gender |
Female |
Birth |
16 Dec 1896 [1] |
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Arrival |
15 Nov 1901 |
Quebec and Montreal, Quebec, Canada [5] |
Arrival |
1902 [2] |
Age: 5 |
Arrival |
1902 [3, 4] |
Age: 6 |
Race |
White [2, 3, 4] |
Name |
Maria Krumm [2] |
Name |
Marie Unknown [3, 4] |
Name |
Marie Unknown [3, 4] |
Name |
Mary Gehringer [6, 7] |
Reference Number |
11541 |
Residence |
1910 |
Blumfield, Saginaw, Michigan, USA [2] |
Age: 13; Marital Status: Single; Relation to Head of House: Daughter |
Residence |
1920 |
Au Gres, Arenac, Michigan, USA [3] |
Age: 24; Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Wife |
Residence |
1930 |
Turner, Arenac, Michigan, USA [4] |
Age: 34; Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Wife |
Residence |
1930 |
Turner, Arenac, Michigan, USA [4] |
Age: 34; Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Wife |
Died |
Aug 1933 |
Au Gres, Arenac, Michigan, USA [1] |
Person ID |
I11541 |
kukkusfamilies |
Family |
Andreas Krumm, b. 10 May 1889, Kukkus, Samara, Russia , d. 17 Sep 1934, Twining, Arenac, Michigan, USA (Age 45 years) |
Married |
23 Feb 1913 |
Turner, Arenac, Michigan, USA [6, 7] |
Children |
| 1. George Krum, b. Abt 1915, Michigan, USA [natural] |
| 2. John Krum, b. Abt 1916, Michigan, USA [natural] |
| 3. Hilda Krum, b. Abt 1917, Michigan, USA [natural] |
| 4. William Krum, b. Abt 1922, Michigan, USA [natural] |
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Family ID |
F3475 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
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Event Map |
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 | Born - 16 Dec 1896 - Lauwe, Samara, Russia |
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 | Residence - Age: 13; Marital Status: Single; Relation to Head of House: Daughter - 1910 - Blumfield, Saginaw, Michigan, USA |
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 | Married - 23 Feb 1913 - Turner, Arenac, Michigan, USA |
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 | Residence - Age: 24; Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Wife - 1920 - Au Gres, Arenac, Michigan, USA |
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 | Residence - Age: 34; Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Wife - 1930 - Turner, Arenac, Michigan, USA |
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 | Residence - Age: 34; Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Wife - 1930 - Turner, Arenac, Michigan, USA |
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 | Died - Aug 1933 - Au Gres, Arenac, Michigan, USA |
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Notes |
- Information from Jack JDS:
This woman is Maria Christina Goringer/Garinger, the illegitimate daughter
of above. As her mother brought her to Kukkus when she (the mother)
married Krumm/Krum, she became the stepdaughter of Krumm/Krum. In fact,
she is listed as the stepdaughter in two records showing their immigration
through Quebec City, QC, Canada. In one she is listed a handful of lines
above the Krumm/Krum family, and in the other she is written in as the last
entry with the family. In both she's a stepdaughter. I think this clan
came in to Quebec City and traveled through Winnipeg on their way to
Lincoln, NE.
In the 1910 Census the Krumm/Krum family is listed in Michigan with 6 kids,
the eldest being Margaretha Catharina from Krumm/Krum's prior
marriage. The son Andreas/Andrew from the same prior marriage was still in
Nebraska, where the family had originally settled. I believe he was
working as a laborer on a farm a few counties away from Lincoln and
enumerated as "Andy Krumb." He subsequently followed to Michigan as I will
note in a moment. The next eldest "Krum" daughter was, in fact, the
stepdaughter Maria Christina Goringer/Garinger, the illegitimate daughter
of the wife Maria Christina (Goringer) Krumm/Krum. The remaining 4 kids
were from both of these parents, and they are actually the only ones
included in the "count" of 4 born, 4 living. It should read 5 born, 5
living, but apparently either the enumerator or the wife did not understand
that this field meant kids by just the mother, not by both parents. The
record also indicates that these folks had been married 10 years, he on his
second marriage, she on her first. In his case I'm not so sure that he was
only married once before, but in hers this was, in fact, her first marriage.
On 23 Feb 1913 Andreas/Andrew, son of Krumm/Krum by the prior marriage,
married Maria Christina Goringer/Garinger, the illegitimate daughter of
Maria Christina (Goringer) Krumm/Krum. I wonder how they met? Ha! In the
record the bride's name is spelled Garinger, which is the variant used by
most, if not all, of my Goringer cousins that settled in Michigan. The
bride's father's name is "Peter." It may well actually have been some
Peter, but I doubt it. The mother's name was "Mary." The bride was living
with her mother, Maria Christina aka "Mary" and her stepfather, so I would
think her mother was "kind enough" to supply her with the "legitimate"
father's name. Actually, I think what her mother provided was her own (the
mother's) father's name, Peter, and it wouldn't surprise me if she never
let on to the girl that she was illegitimate, and that the girl's obituary
may well also be incorrect on this point. Either way, the fact that the
mother provided this name Peter seems to have led most, if not all,
"genealogists" astray. Ha! They could search for the mysterious Peter
Goringer until the end of time, and they'd never find him because he
doesn't exist.
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Sources |
- [S247] Genealogical Information, provided by JDS.
- [S336] 1910 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2006;), Year: 1910; Census Place: Blumfield, Saginaw, Michigan; Roll: T624_671; Page: 8B; Enumeration District: 0027; FHL microfilm: 1374684.
Record for Andreas Krumm
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1910uscenindex&h=12501320&indiv=try
- [S337] 1920 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;), Year: 1920; Census Place: Au Gres, Arenac, Michigan.
Record for Andrew Krum
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1920usfedcen&h=17136974&indiv=try
- [S338] 1930 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2002;), Year: 1930; Census Place: Turner, Arenac, Michigan; Roll: 973; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 18; Image: 1102.0; FHL microfilm: 2340708.
Record for Andrew Krum
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1930usfedcen&h=105758096&indiv=try
- [S350] Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;).
Record for Andreas Krum
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=canadianpl&h=5589121&indiv=try
- [S59] Michigan Marriages.
father: Andrew
mother: Mary Try
spouse: Mary Garinger
other: Peter, ...ry Garinger
Name Andrew Krum
Race (Original)
Age (Expanded) 23 years
Birth Year 1890
Birthplace Russia
Spouse's Name Mary Garinger
Spouse's Race (Original)
Spouse's Age (Expanded) 18 years
Spouse's Birth Year 1895
Spouse's Birthplace Russia
Event Date 23 Feb 1913
Event Place Turner, Arenac, Michigan
Father's Name Andrew
Mother's Name Mary Try
Spouse's Father's Name Peter
Spouse's Mother's Name ...ry Garinger
Marital Status
Previous Wife's Name
Spouse's Marital Status
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name
GS Film number 2342700
Frame Number
Digital Folder Number 4209171
Reference ID v 1 p 1 rn 5
- [S59] Michigan Marriages.
father: Andrew mother: Mary Try spouse: Mary Garinger other: Peter, ...ry Garinger Name Andrew Krum Race (Original) Age (Expanded) 23 years Birth Year 1890 Birthplace Russia Spouse's Name Mary Garinger Spouse's Race (Original) Spouse's Age (Expanded) 18 years Spouse's Birth Year 1895 Spouse's Birthplace Russia Event Date 23 Feb 1913 Event Place Turner, Arenac, Michigan Father's Name Andrew Mother's Name Mary Try Spouse's Father's Name Peter Spouse's Mother's Name ...ry Garinger Marital Status Previous Wife's Name Spouse's Marital Status Spouse's Previous Husband's Name GS Film number 2342700 Frame Number Digital Folder Number 4209171 Reference ID v 1 p 1 rn 5
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